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NPCI is a Private Company or Govt Company ?

Abhishek012

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NPCI is a private company or govt company ?

There is always an argument about whether NPCI is a private company or a govt company.

I have always said that NPCI is a private company or private non-profit company — neither does the govt have anything to do with it, nor does the govt fund NPCI.

I thought, why not finally create a separate thread for this?

Those who want to fight can keep fighting. 🤣🤣

By the way, this article just came out in the media last week—you can read it - https://www.medianama.com/2025/02/223-npci-competition-regulation/

The National Payments Corporation of India (NPCI), a largely bank-owned private non-profit company, runs BHIM. Many mistake, misunderstand, or misrepresent NPCI as a government body because people don’t know better. People can mistake NPCI’s statement that it is “is an initiative of the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) and the Indian Banks’ Association (IBA) under the provisions of the Payment and Settlement Systems Act, 2007, for creating a robust Payment & Settlement Infrastructure in India” as suggesting that it is a government body. Not their fault, of course.

NPCI actively sought to be recognized as a private entity, taking its case to the Chief Information Commissioner to argue that it is not a public authority and, therefore, not subject to RTI requests—and it won. The Competition Commission of India (CCI) also examined its use of the word “National” in its name, noting that, since 2014, only government-owned companies or those with government stakes could use the term.

In the next paragraph, it is written again -

But what is also clear is that it was designed to be a private entity, and the fact that it would become a monopoly was recognised early. As Smriti Parsheera writes:

“In 2011, the Technical Advisory Group for Unique Projects headed by India Stack proponent, Nandan Nilekani, articulated the idea of vesting the ownership of digital infrastructures in ‘private companies with a public purpose.’ The adoption of a ‘not-for-profit’ structure for entities like the National Payments Corporation of India (NPCI) and Open Network for Digital Commerce (ONDC) has become one of the ways to emphasise their public purpose. “…”The Technical Advisory Group for Unique Projects committee had observed that digital infrastructure operators, which they labeled as national information utilities, essentially operate as natural monopolies due to ‘upfront sunk-cost, economies of scale, and network externalities from a surrounding ecosystem.’”



Anyway, those who want to fight on this topic, keep fighting all your entire life.

But I would like to add one more thing:

Every country’s govt promotes its local payment network, but that doesn’t mean we should start calling it a govt company.

Visa and Mastercard aren’t considered U.S. government companies, even though they are backed by the U.S. government.

And the U.S. govt has even funded Visa and Mastercard in the past, whereas the Indian govt has never done that in NPCI.

The U.S. govt uses Visa and Mastercard in its sanctions to restrict certain countries but does that mean Visa and Mastercard are called govt companies?

Many times i told - NPCI has been created in the same way as Visa/Mastercard. Before 2008, Visa/mastercard was non-profit private company.

Anyone who thinks NPCI is a Indian govt company should also consider Visa and Mastercard as U.S. govt companies. There is no difference between all these companies.

By the way, also read NPCI employee's own replies on Quora -

This is not just one employee's reply; I have seen replies from other NPCI employees as well.

In fact, when I used to read NPCI employees' replies a long time ago, they used to say, "We are a private company/NPCI is a private company" (of course, back when the govt wasn’t as involved in NPCI).

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Tagging a few people with whom this conversation has already happened.

@Abhigyan kumar
@Aniket
@Avinash.Mishra
@arunkd386
@quino
@Tonymathew
@_deb_
@kuchbhi

@rutgersbach also share this -

 
NPCI is specially designed as a private co just like PMCARES have been designed as a private fund. Both are designed this way so that they are not answerable to anyone and are outside the scope of RTI.
In contrast, CPSE/PSU employees also do not enjoy "govt perks" but are answerable to everyone and can be bombed with thousands of RTI
PM CARES is a completely different thing.

CPSE/PSU employees enjoy many govt benefits.
 
Tagging a few people with whom this conversation has already happened.

@Abhigyan kumar
@Aniket
@Avinash.Mishra
@arunkd386
@quino
@Tonymathew
@_deb_
@kuchbhi

@rutgersbach also share this -

@Abhishek012 thanks for the tag. There is no doubt that NPCI is not a government organisation or PSU. It is a corporation which has a group of shareholders including PSU banks, private banks, foreign banks, and other financial services companies. Here is a list of shareholding.


In my post few days bank, I meant that government is reducing the budget they have to promote Rupay. This doesn’t change the ownership of the organisation.
 
PM CARES is a completely different thing.

CPSE/PSU employees enjoy many govt benefits.
PSU employees do not enjoy any govt benefits. their pay benefits are also dependent upon profit of the organization. there are two type of people for the govt - one who are purely govt employees, including the Civil services and then the rest, including PSU and pvt. All benefits and concessions are for the first group only.
 
NPCI is a private company or govt company ?

There is always an argument about whether NPCI is a private company or a govt company.

I have always said that NPCI is a private company or private non-profit company — neither does the govt have anything to do with it, nor does the govt fund NPCI.

I thought, why not finally create a separate thread for this?

Those who want to fight can keep fighting. 🤣🤣

By the way, this article just came out in the media last week—you can read it - https://www.medianama.com/2025/02/223-npci-competition-regulation/

The National Payments Corporation of India (NPCI), a largely bank-owned private non-profit company, runs BHIM. Many mistake, misunderstand, or misrepresent NPCI as a government body because people don’t know better. People can mistake NPCI’s statement that it is “is an initiative of the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) and the Indian Banks’ Association (IBA) under the provisions of the Payment and Settlement Systems Act, 2007, for creating a robust Payment & Settlement Infrastructure in India” as suggesting that it is a government body. Not their fault, of course.

NPCI actively sought to be recognized as a private entity, taking its case to the Chief Information Commissioner to argue that it is not a public authority and, therefore, not subject to RTI requests—and it won. The Competition Commission of India (CCI) also examined its use of the word “National” in its name, noting that, since 2014, only government-owned companies or those with government stakes could use the term.

In the next paragraph, it is written again -

But what is also clear is that it was designed to be a private entity, and the fact that it would become a monopoly was recognised early. As Smriti Parsheera writes:

“In 2011, the Technical Advisory Group for Unique Projects headed by India Stack proponent, Nandan Nilekani, articulated the idea of vesting the ownership of digital infrastructures in ‘private companies with a public purpose.’ The adoption of a ‘not-for-profit’ structure for entities like the National Payments Corporation of India (NPCI) and Open Network for Digital Commerce (ONDC) has become one of the ways to emphasise their public purpose. “…”The Technical Advisory Group for Unique Projects committee had observed that digital infrastructure operators, which they labeled as national information utilities, essentially operate as natural monopolies due to ‘upfront sunk-cost, economies of scale, and network externalities from a surrounding ecosystem.’”



Anyway, those who want to fight on this topic, keep fighting all your entire life.

But I would like to add one more thing:

Every country’s govt promotes its local payment network, but that doesn’t mean we should start calling it a govt company.

Visa and Mastercard aren’t considered U.S. government companies, even though they are backed by the U.S. government.

And the U.S. govt has even funded Visa and Mastercard in the past, whereas the Indian govt has never done that in NPCI.

The U.S. govt uses Visa and Mastercard in its sanctions to restrict certain countries but does that mean Visa and Mastercard are called govt companies?

Many times i told - NPCI has been created in the same way as Visa/Mastercard. Before 2008, Visa/mastercard was non-profit private company.

Anyone who thinks NPCI is a Indian govt company should also consider Visa and Mastercard as U.S. govt companies. There is no difference between all these companies.

By the way, also read NPCI employee's own replies on Quora -

This is not just one employee's reply; I have seen replies from other NPCI employees as well.

In fact, when I used to read NPCI employees' replies a long time ago, they used to say, "We are a private company/NPCI is a private company" (of course, back when the govt wasn’t as involved in NPCI).

npci-quora-webp.84314
Tagging a few people with whom this conversation has already happened.

@Aniket
Enough is enough, I may sound lil rude, but it's what it's:
Firstly you stop using Red Herring & Bandwagon fallacy (google it) to prove your baseless arguments.

Do you even know what's private co., how company gets incorporated without asking AI, your quora and google?

Blabbering anything with your preconceived /copy paste knowledge/data cannot prove anything. I thought to ignore this but thought you will continue doing this again in future.

Now, tell me if it's private company, then where is the word private limited or pvt. ltd. within it's name, why it's not profit motive, i.e, operating to maximize profits? Why it's been prohibited the payment of any dividend/bonus to its members? Why it doesn't apply its profits & property other than promoting its object(s) like any other pvt. co.? Why no remuneration in money or its equivalent/ worth is given to its members unlike private company?

Reader may think that there is not even limited or ltd word to its name at the last, it's because a special licence is granted to sec. 8 co, which waive off that requirment (4(1)(a)), in others words it doesn't apply to the co. incorporated under sec. (8), the same (licence) can be revoked by the order of CG & Registrar shall put Ltd. or Pv. Ltd at the end of company's name in the register. Also, remuneration is given to the staff, but here in this case, staff/employee can not become member. Member of a company and staff/employee are two different things.

If I goes into the depth of law, start to explain everything, then it will be the waste of time and effort only for no meaningful reason. The law is very vast and interlinked, so, let it be.

Something which is not owned by the goverment, doesn't mean it's private company, there is public co. as well in law.

I have had already mentioned this to someday else way before your comment which was made after my constructive criticism, if you need I can attach proof as well, because you will not remain commenting against it as well:

Now let's come to the point, NPCI was established by an act of parliament, i.e, Payment & Settlement Systems Act, 2007 (special act) and incorporated as public limited co. under sec. 25 of the Companies Act, 1956. (Now, it falls under sec. 8 of the new act, the companies Act, 2013).

Here, public co. means a co. other than a private co.

It's owned by financial institutions not limited to banks; Private, PSU. Majority of the shares are held by the PSU banks only, together. Most important thing, it's nothing to do with the government co. [2(45)].


I have never ever said/made argument that it's a government co. or it's not a sec. 8 co. (not for profit) & if you disagree show me, but I know, you can't, because it's only you, who is creating chaos, it was never the matter of pvt. co vs gov. co, only you made it.

However, I can show you numerous proofs where you simply mentioned it it's a private co. (in your language, you call non- gov co. as private co.)

Lastly, nothing to comment on baseless thing, the complaint was made on different thing; RTI, Public Authority. Never said it's a gov. co., just you guys interpret one which is not a gov co. is a private co., I even doubt you whether you know what's a gov co. or not (I know you will later search and then will do cut, copy and paste with some modifications if required). And why I am saying so? Here it's defined in relation with the gov. jobs/pressure of work & what not...lol 👇 it's just an example there are many more like this...


Screenshot_20250302-024858.webp

Earlier a group of people were defending about SBI Cards, somehow in a similar way...

Don't ever try to interpret legal term(s) as plain English. For e.g; shall, offence, associate, have different meaning in the context of a particular law is very different for others.

Now full stop from my end, go and get the learning/interpretation from a good CS/ corporate lawyer/advocate/ CA or any other person having the knowledge of Corporate laws with good interpretation and reasoning skills.


Just attaching only one authentic thing (Auditor's Report), if you seek proof.
Screenshot_20250302-000031.webp
P.S: Don't delete the thread as well as the comment(s).

CC:
@Abhigyan kumar @Avinash.Mishra
@arunkd386 @Tonymathew
@_deb_ @kuchbhi @rutgersbach @6ix9ine @pinki @its_karan @Raavan @ashwink @BeingIncog @Ak Singh
 
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Enough is enough, I may sound lil rude, but it's what it's:
Firstly you stop using Red Herring & Bandwagon fallacy (google it) to prove your baseless arguments.

Do you even know what's private co., how company gets incorporated without asking AI, your quora and google?

Blabbering anything with your preconceived /copy paste knowledge/data cannot prove anything. I thought to ignore this but thought you will continue doing this again in future.

Now, tell me if it's private company, then where is the word private limited or pvt. ltd. within it's name, why it's not profit motive, i.e, operating to maximize profits? Why it's been prohibited the payment of any dividend/bonus to its members? Why it doesn't apply its profits & property other than promoting its object(s) like any other pvt. co.? Why no remuneration in money or its equivalent/ worth is given to its members unlike private company?

Reader may think that there is not even limited or ltd word to its name at the last, it's because a special licence is granted to sec. 8 co, which waive off that requirment (4(1)(a)). Also, remuneration is given to the staff, but here in this case, staff/employee can not become member. Member of a company and staff/employee are two different things.

If I goes into the depth of law, start to explain everything, then it will be the waste of time and effort only for no meaningful reason. The law is very vast and interlinked, so, let it be.

Something which is not owned by the goverment, doesn't mean it's private company, there is public co. as well in law.

I have had already mentioned this to someday else way before your comment which was made after my constructive criticism, if you need I can attach proof as well, because will not remain commenting against it as well:

Now let's come to the point, NPCI was established by an act of parliament, i.e, Payment & Settlement Systems Act, 2007 (special act) and incorporated as public limited co. under sec. 25 of the Companies Act, 1956. (Now, it falls under sec. 8 of the new act, the companies Act, 2013).

It's owned by financial institutions not limited to banks; Private, PSU. Majority of the shares are held by the PSU banks only, together. Most important thing, it's nothing to do with the government co. [2(45)].


I have never ever said/made argument that it's a government co. or it's not a sec. 8 co. (not for profit) & if you disagree show me, but I know, you can't, because it's only you, who is creating chaos, it was never the matter of pvt. co vs gov. co, only you made it.

However, I can show you tons of proofs where you simply mentioned it it's a private co. (in your language, you call non- gov co. as private co.)

Lastly, nothing to comment on baseless thing, the complaint was made on different thing; RTI, Public Authority. Never said it's a gov. co., just you guys interpret one which is not a gov co. is a private co., I even doubt you whether you know what's a gov co. or not.

Now full stop from my end, go and get the learning/interpretation from a good CS/ corporate lawyer/advocate/ CA or any other person having the knowledge of Corporate laws with good interpretation and reasoning skills.


Just attaching only one authentic thing (Auditor's Report), if you seek proof.
View attachment 85248
P.S: Don't delete the thread as well as the comment(s).

CC:
@Abhigyan kumar @Avinash.Mishra
@arunkd386 @Tonymathew
@_deb_ @kuchbhi @rutgersbach @6ix9ine @pinki @its_karan @Raavan @ashwink @BeingIncog @Ak Singh
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Enough is enough, I may sound lil rude, but it's what it's:
Firstly you stop using Red Herring & Bandwagon fallacy (google it) to prove your baseless arguments.

Do you even know what's private co., how company gets incorporated without asking AI, your quora and google?

Blabbering anything with your preconceived /copy paste knowledge/data cannot prove anything. I thought to ignore this but thought you will continue doing this again in future.

Now, tell me if it's private company, then where is the word private limited or pvt. ltd. within it's name, why it's not profit motive, i.e, operating to maximize profits? Why it's been prohibited the payment of any dividend/bonus to its members? Why it doesn't apply its profits & property other than promoting its object(s) like any other pvt. co.? Why no remuneration in money or its equivalent/ worth is given to its members unlike private company?

Reader may think that there is not even limited or ltd word to its name at the last, it's because a special licence is granted to sec. 8 co, which waive off that requirment (4(1)(a)). Also, remuneration is given to the staff, but here in this case, staff/employee can not become member. Member of a company and staff/employee are two different things.

If I goes into the depth of law, start to explain everything, then it will be the waste of time and effort only for no meaningful reason. The law is very vast and interlinked, so, let it be.

Something which is not owned by the goverment, doesn't mean it's private company, there is public co. as well in law.

I have had already mentioned this to someday else way before your comment which was made after my constructive criticism, if you need I can attach proof as well, because you will not remain commenting against it as well:

Now let's come to the point, NPCI was established by an act of parliament, i.e, Payment & Settlement Systems Act, 2007 (special act) and incorporated as public limited co. under sec. 25 of the Companies Act, 1956. (Now, it falls under sec. 8 of the new act, the companies Act, 2013).

Here, public co. means a co. other than a private co.

It's owned by financial institutions not limited to banks; Private, PSU. Majority of the shares are held by the PSU banks only, together. Most important thing, it's nothing to do with the government co. [2(45)].


I have never ever said/made argument that it's a government co. or it's not a sec. 8 co. (not for profit) & if you disagree show me, but I know, you can't, because it's only you, who is creating chaos, it was never the matter of pvt. co vs gov. co, only you made it.

However, I can show you numerous proofs where you simply mentioned it it's a private co. (in your language, you call non- gov co. as private co.)

Lastly, nothing to comment on baseless thing, the complaint was made on different thing; RTI, Public Authority. Never said it's a gov. co., just you guys interpret one which is not a gov co. is a private co., I even doubt you whether you know what's a gov co. or not (I know you will later search and then will do cut, copy and paste with some modifications if required). And why I am saying so? Here it's defined in relation with the gov. jobs/pressure of work & what not...lol 👇 it's just an example there are many more like this...


View attachment 85294

Earlier a group of people were defending about SBI Cards, somehow in a similar way...

Don't ever try to interpret legal term(s) as plain English. For e.g; shall, offence, associate, have different meaning in the context of a particular law is very different for others.

Now full stop from my end, go and get the learning/interpretation from a good CS/ corporate lawyer/advocate/ CA or any other person having the knowledge of Corporate laws with good interpretation and reasoning skills.


Just attaching only one authentic thing (Auditor's Report), if you seek proof.
View attachment 85248
P.S: Don't delete the thread as well as the comment(s).

CC:
@Abhigyan kumar @Avinash.Mishra
@arunkd386 @Tonymathew
@_deb_ @kuchbhi @rutgersbach @6ix9ine @pinki @its_karan @Raavan @ashwink @BeingIncog @Ak Singh
Itna kon padhega? 🙄🙄

Anyway, you don't even know how non-profit private companies work.

In non-profit private companies, private limited or Pvt. Ltd., or dividends/bonuses do not exist at all.

AI or Google calls it a govt company, so forget what AI says.

And the last thing, being a public company doesn’t mean that it is not a private company or a govt company.

If NPCI's company classification is public, that doesn’t mean it cannot be a private company or a govt company.

Take the example of LIC—before its IPO, LIC’s company classification was also 'public.'

But LIC was a govt company. I mean, it still is a govt company.

So, if you call NPCI a public company, that’s fine—you are right.

But the question shifts to whether it is private or govt company, that’s where it matters.

Because public companies can be either private or govt-owned.
 
Itna kon padhega? 🙄🙄
Pehle sochna tha na 🤣
Anyway, you don't even know how non-profit private companies work.
Really? Do you even know my background? 😂
Let it be...
In non-profit private companies, private limited or Pvt. Ltd., or dividends/bonuses do not exist at all.
Have I mentioned it? 🤣 Mera hi baat chipka rahe?
AI or Google calls it a govt company, so forget what AI says.
Lol 😂 may be you are not giving the command properly. I don't even need to google or use AI for this particular case, why so? Because I know company law; company, very well, atleast better than you.
And the last thing, being a public company doesn’t mean that it is not a private company or a government company
Matalb kuchbhi? Ab toh sach mein daya aane laga hai 🤣 kis se argument ho raha hai 🤣

Bro, grow up. A public co. is in no way a private co. [2(71)]

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Only, subsidiary of a public co. shall be deemed as a public co, even if it's a private co. in its AOA.

Your contention is like:
Apples are both fruit and vegetable, even though both fruit & vegetable are fundamentally different. 🤣

If NPCI's company classification is public, that doesn’t mean it cannot be a private company or a govt company.

Take the example of LIC—before its IPO, LIC’s company classification was also 'public.'

But LIC was a govt company. I mean, it still is a govt company.

So, if you call NPCI a public company, that’s fine—you are right.
Again, bullshit. Already countered above & in previous comment.
But the question shifts to whether it is private or govt company, that’s where it matters.
Argument was made for the gov. co. or not a profit co. form my end, it's only who who made it. According to you, the one which is not a gov. co., is a private co. The same is clearly evident from your thinking and comments. 👇

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Because public companies can be either private or govt-owned.
Lol 😂

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This is why, I mentioned formerly, to consult a good corporate lawyer, CS, CA or someone having knowledge or grip over it.

It's (understanding these things) not your cup of tea, that's why not going to teach why & how further.
Think whatever you want, onwards.
 
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To put things in perspective, there are different kinds of govt organizations functioning in India,

A department or autonomous body of Central or State Govt - They are the only true govt organization and their employees are the only Govt employees in this country.

An organization formed under a Special Act of Parliament, and not directly under the Companies Act - eg. LIC before corporatisation, Food Corporation of India, Central Warehousing Corporation etc. - The employees are NOT govt employees and do not enjoy the pay benefits or privileges applicable to govt employees but the key posts are held by govt employees on deputation

Company formed under the Companies Act, in which Central or State Govt, directly or through any of its other organizations, hold a controlling interest - The employees are NOT govt employees and do not enjoy the pay benefits or privileges applicable to govt employees but the Board positions and CEO position are normally held by govt employees on deputation. Majority of the PSUs come under this.

NPCI and the like are new kind, which are formed by an Act of Parliament but deliberately given the structure and outlook of non-govt company to prevent any public scrutiny of their actions and to enable to be not answerable to the public. The Parliament takes decisions only on Govt matters and issues that affect the public at large. The very fact that an organization has been formed through a decision of the Parliament implies that Govt and public interests are involved. But they are artificially made "private" to allow them to function whatever way they like without being answerable to anyone.
 
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