Airmiles & hotel points value

[drsel]

Requesting all airmiles and hotel points experts to value the points of each of these in paisa--

Accor Hotels (Accor Live Limitless)
Air France-KLM (Flying Blue)
Air Canada (Aeroplan)
Air India (Flying Returns)
Ethiopian Airlines
Air Asia
Etihad (Etihad Guest)
ITC
Japan Airlines (JAL Mileage Bank)
IHG® Hotels & Resorts (IHG One Rewards)
Marriott International (Marriott Bonvoy)
Qantas Airways (Qantas Frequent Flyer)
Qatar Airways
SpiceJet
Singapore Airlines (Krisflyer)
Vistara (TATA SIA Airlines Ltd)
Turkish Airlines
Thai Airways (Royal Orchid Plus)
United Airlines (MileagePlus)
Wyndham Hotels (Wyndham Rewards

 

[sahilgulati5]

According to my experience,

Accor Hotels (Accor Live Limitless) = 1.8rs ( Fixed Value) ( That's y we Indian Love it. Lots of budget hotel are there all around the world mostly in East Side)
Air Canada (Aeroplan)= .7 to 1.5rs( Varies according to the sector u r travelling. West is Cheaper than east). Tax value/surcharge is not high
Singapore Airlines(Krisflyer) = .7 to .85 ( Varies according to the sector u r travelling. If booking from Singapore or any Europe u can get better deals) + Tax value/surcharge is nominal
Marriott International(Bonvoy) = .8 to 3 ( Its best for booking high end property or if u r booking with points for 4 Nights 5th night is free. But since every time u don't get breakfast as complimentary the value reduces further).
ITC = 1rs( Fixed value) ( Can transfer every quarter 10000 points to Marriott @ 2:3 Ratio)

 

[drsel]

When I redeemed Singapore 40000 miles + 6000, the point value came to 66.25 paisa when compared to the revenue fare (Rs.32500) for the same flight.

 

[drsel]

Marriott Hotel prices are much more than Accor, so you need to apply some amount of discounting to the revenue prices of Marriott.

Also Marriott requires 27500 to over 1 lakh points for 1 room night, which is really high compared to Accor.
Then the realistic point value of Marriott will be much much less, may be 40 to 43 paisa

 

[drsel]

According to my experience,

Accor Hotels (Accor Live Limitless) = 1.8rs ( Fixed Value) ( That's y we Indian Love it. Lots of budget hotel are there all around the world mostly in East Side)
Air Canada (Aeroplan)= .7 to 1.5rs( Varies according to the sector u r travelling. West is Cheaper than east). Tax value/surcharge is not high
Singapore Airlines(Krisflyer) = .7 to .85 ( Varies according to the sector u r travelling. If booking from Singapore or any Europe u can get better deals) + Tax value/surcharge is nominal
Marriott International(Bonvoy) = .8 to 3 ( Its best for booking high end property or if u r booking with points for 4 Nights 5th night is free. But since every time u don't get breakfast as complimentary the value reduces further).
ITC = 1rs( Fixed value) ( Can transfer every quarter 10000 points to Marriott @ 2:3 Ratio)

Thanks, so which is the best redemption of in the B category of Axis Bank, after completing 2 lakh points transfer in A category.

ITC value is Rs 1.
But you will have to pay at the full rack rate when you use points
you will not get the discounted online prices offered by online travel agents.
Also, being 5 star hotels you need to apply a lot of discounting to the prices

 

[sahilgulati5]

Marriott Hotel prices are much more than Accor, so you need to apply some amount of discounting to the revenue prices of Marriott.

Also Marriott requires 27500 to over 1 lakh points for 1 room night, which is really high compared to Accor.
Then the realistic point value of Marriott will be much much less, may be 30 to 40 paisa

As i said, IT varies and Marriott is good for high end properties where the rates starts from $600+. for value less than 300$ its better to pay than using points. But there are some sweet spots in Marriott if u do little searching..

 

[sahilgulati5]

When I redeemed Singapore 40000 miles + 6000, the point value came to 66.25 paisa when compared to the revenue fare (Rs.32500) for the same flight.

I once got .8 value. when Booked Chennai to Barcelona via Delhi for 30500+ Tax 4500 approx.. when one way was around 30000 approx

 

[CCFan12]

When I redeemed Singapore 40000 miles + 6000, the point value came to 66.25 paisa when compared to the revenue fare (Rs.32500) for the same flight.

For SQ it depends on the sector mostly, you also get good value during Holiday season when the fares are high. I got value of 1.4 for my recent booking for Siem Reap-Mumbai.

 

[drsel]

I once got .8 value. when Booked Chennai to Barcelona via Delhi for 30500+ Tax 4500 approx.. when one way was around 30000 approx

U.must consider that on other Airlines you can get Chennai to Barcelona return fare for 50000 all inclusive.
That makes the point value around 66 paisa

 

[drsel]

For SQ it depends on the sector mostly, you also get good value during Holiday season when the fares are high. I got value of 1.4 for my recent booking for Siem Reap-Mumbai.

Please send me your itinerary of Vietnam and Cambodia on direct message

 

[anirban.choudhuryanirban.choudhury is verified member.]

Except Accor everything else value you get is dynamic in nature .

Accor gives plain and simple 2000 points for 40 euro which comes down to
1.8 Rs per point
It doesn't depend on property and class of room you book.

Marriot is completely dynamic in nature which can give you value of 0.40 to 3 Rs sometimes even higher

Airlines points value is between 0.5 to 3 or even 5 Rs
Economy almost always gives a value less than or equally 1 Rs or max 1.2-1.5 Rs unless you are flying under some promo or low seasons
Business would always a give a value higher than 1 Rs
First class will always give value more than 2 Rs

So it's better to conclude that airmiles or points doesn't have a strict point to value ratio and the valuation completely depends upon redemption.

Few examples -

For Singapore airlines I booked 3 tickets return to Bali from Kolkata at 90,000 miles + 15,000 in taxes

During booking the non refundable rates with Singapore airlines was coming around 96,000 INR

Same Flights now are expensive and costs 1.66 lakhs for 3 return.

I booked Virgin Atlantic Day before Yesterday at 21000 miles + 38000 in taxes for 2 in premium economy from delhi to London

Same flights costs 2 lakhs Rs which gave me a value of 2.5 Rs per Amex points , if we consider just Virgin miles then it gave value back of almost 3.5 Rs

Where as economy on same day was giving a value of 1.2 Rs per Amex points.

Even for marriot there are numerous examples where I got value of more than 1 Rs and few lower at 0.75 too.

Hyatt is again a very good FFP which can give a value of 3-5 Rs
An example would be I booked Alila Manggis at 5000 Hyatt points and revenue rate in TPA or Hyatt was 15k INR

Alila Bangsar I booked at 3500 points and revenue was at 8000 INR.

 

[sahilgulati5]

Except Accor everything else value you get is dynamic in nature .

Accor gives plain and simple 2000 points for 40 euro which comes down to
1.8 Rs per point
It doesn't depend on property and class of room you book.

Marriot is completely dynamic in nature which can give you value of 0.40 to 3 Rs sometimes even higher

Airlines points value is between 0.5 to 3 or even 5 Rs
Economy almost always gives a value less than or equally 1 Rs or max 1.2-1.5 Rs unless you are flying under some promo or low seasons
Business would always a give a value higher than 1 Rs
First class will always give value more than 2 Rs

So it's better to conclude that airmiles or points doesn't have a strict point to value ratio and the valuation completely depends upon redemption.

Few examples -

For Singapore airlines I booked 3 tickets return to Bali from Kolkata at 90,000 miles + 15,000 in taxes

During booking the non refundable rates with Singapore airlines was coming around 96,000 INR

Same Flights now are expensive and costs 1.66 lakhs for 3 return.

I booked Virgin Atlantic Day before Yesterday at 21000 miles + 38000 in taxes for 2 in premium economy from delhi to London

Same flights costs 2 lakhs Rs which gave me a value of 2.5 Rs per Amex points , if we consider just Virgin miles then it gave value back of almost 3.5 Rs

Where as economy on same day was giving a value of 1.2 Rs per Amex points.

Even for marriot there are numerous examples where I got value of more than 1 Rs and few lower at 0.75 too.

Hyatt is again a very good FFP which can give a value of 3-5 Rs
An example would be I booked Alila Manggis at 5000 Hyatt points and revenue rate in TPA or Hyatt was 15k INR

Alila Bangsar I booked at 3500 points and revenue was at 8000 INR.

Which card offer point transfer to Hyatt. Not able to find any good cards for Hyatt transfer in india

 

[anirban.choudhuryanirban.choudhury is verified member.]

Which card offer point transfer to Hyatt. Not able to find any good cards for Hyatt transfer in india

No card in India
I bought those points at 1.25 Rs per points during 36% sale few months back

 

[sahilgulati5]

Cool. I always wanted to try buying points. But never did that. Last week also got offer for 50% bonus on marriott point purchase.

I always skip it saying something or the other

 

[anirban.choudhuryanirban.choudhury is verified member.]

Some times points purchase is better than transfer😀

 

[sahilgulati5]

Some times points purchase is better than transfer😀

Agreed.. but only if u use it immediately or within 3 months of purchase. As u never know the points would be devalued. As everyone is moving to dynamic

 

[anirban.choudhuryanirban.choudhury is verified member.]

Agreed.. but only if u use it immediately or within 3 months of purchase. As u never know the points would be devalued. As everyone is moving to dynamic

Yes points have 0 value unless redeemed

 

[drsel]

Cool. I always wanted to try buying points. But never did that. Last week also got offer for 50% bonus on marriott point purchase.

I always skip it saying something or the other

What was the price with and without the offer?

 

[sahilgulati5]

What was the price with and without the offer?

 

[sahilgulati5]

Approx .72 after adding forex charges and gst