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What's the difference between air cooled and liquid cooled engines ?
Internal combustion engines generate considerable heat due to combustion of fuel. This process happens inside the cylinders which heats up the surrounding engine block.

Metals are susceptible to thermal expansion. So continuous heating and cooling would destroy the tight tolerances between the piston rings and the cylinder.

The cylinders are surrounded by a channel through which a fluid flows. This fluid could be either a coolant or even air.

The coolant liquid consists of ethylene glycol and water mixtures. It absorbs heat efficiently and then flows into a radiator (heat exchanger) where it gives away the heat and cools down. Then it is circulated again for maintaining the engine temperature.

This liquid cooling system is heavy and requires space. For smaller engines where not much heat is generated, it is not feasible to have a cooling system which weighs and occupies as much space as the engine itself.

In such scenario, instead of having a cooling channel surround the engine block, the engine block is surrounded by a finned type radiator (typically seen in 2 wheeler engines).

It is important to know that compared to the liquid coolant mixture, air has very poor thermal conductivity. Hence, it requires a larger heat transfer area to absorb the heat effectively.

So, in an air cooled engine, the fins help in increasing the heat transfer area and as air flows through these fins, it absorbs heat. Here the cooling is restricted by the air flowing through the fins.

Hence for larger displacement engines, liquid cooling in a closed loop is preferred.
 
Internal combustion engines generate considerable heat due to combustion of fuel. This process happens inside the cylinders which heats up the surrounding engine block.

Metals are susceptible to thermal expansion. So continuous heating and cooling would destroy the tight tolerances between the piston rings and the cylinder.

The cylinders are surrounded by a channel through which a fluid flows. This fluid could be either a coolant or even air.

The coolant liquid consists of ethylene glycol and water mixtures. It absorbs heat efficiently and then flows into a radiator (heat exchanger) where it gives away the heat and cools down. Then it is circulated again for maintaining the engine temperature.

This liquid cooling system is heavy and requires space. For smaller engines where not much heat is generated, it is not feasible to have a cooling system which weighs and occupies as much space as the engine itself.

In such scenario, instead of having a cooling channel surround the engine block, the engine block is surrounded by a finned type radiator (typically seen in 2 wheeler engines).

It is important to know that compared to the liquid coolant mixture, air has very poor thermal conductivity. Hence, it requires a larger heat transfer area to absorb the heat effectively.

So, in an air cooled engine, the fins help in increasing the heat transfer area and as air flows through these fins, it absorbs heat. Here the cooling is restricted by the air flowing through the fins.

Hence for larger displacement engines, liquid cooling in a closed loop is preferred.
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Mt 15 looks like chapri , xsr 155 can be said as an alternative of hunter 350
Somewhere its a chhapri and Somewhere its a chickbike.
And xsr is a hunter alternative just by the looks of it.

Xsr/mt15/r15 are basically the same person in different clothes.

Can we call hunter as an r15 alternative?
No.

Hunter on a spec sheet is very tempting bang for buck.
However when ridden its not that much of a fun.
The shocks were very hard for my liking. Heard they've fixed it in the 2025 lift. Yet to try that.
for people who want a calm, torquey enfield like experience. Its a good bike.

Hunter uses the same 350 engine that is in the classic, meteor, bullet.
A long torquey engine.
And it pretends to be a street bike.
Thats a mismatch.
It just doesn't work.

Its not of my liking.
Sales numbers are good as its very tempting compared to other 350 prices by RE. And RE service is also best among all Indian brands.

Dont expect 350 cc hunter to be as agine and fast as a NS160 or RTR160.
 
Internal combustion engines generate considerable heat due to combustion of fuel. This process happens inside the cylinders which heats up the surrounding engine block.

Metals are susceptible to thermal expansion. So continuous heating and cooling would destroy the tight tolerances between the piston rings and the cylinder.

The cylinders are surrounded by a channel through which a fluid flows. This fluid could be either a coolant or even air.

The coolant liquid consists of ethylene glycol and water mixtures. It absorbs heat efficiently and then flows into a radiator (heat exchanger) where it gives away the heat and cools down. Then it is circulated again for maintaining the engine temperature.

This liquid cooling system is heavy and requires space. For smaller engines where not much heat is generated, it is not feasible to have a cooling system which weighs and occupies as much space as the engine itself.

In such scenario, instead of having a cooling channel surround the engine block, the engine block is surrounded by a finned type radiator (typically seen in 2 wheeler engines).

It is important to know that compared to the liquid coolant mixture, air has very poor thermal conductivity. Hence, it requires a larger heat transfer area to absorb the heat effectively.

So, in an air cooled engine, the fins help in increasing the heat transfer area and as air flows through these fins, it absorbs heat. Here the cooling is restricted by the air flowing through the fins.

Hence for larger displacement engines, liquid cooling in a closed loop is preferred.
Noice , so which type of engine will be preferrable for commutor bikes ?
 
Somewhere its a chhapri and Somewhere its a chickbike.
And xsr is a hunter alternative just by the looks of it.

Xsr/mt15/r15 are basically the same person in different clothes.

Can we call hunter as an r15 alternative?
No.

Hunter on a spec sheet is very tempting bang for buck.
However when ridden its not that much of a fun.
The shocks were very hard for my liking. Heard they've fixed it in the 2025 lift. Yet to try that.
for people who want a calm, torquey enfield like experience. Its a good bike.

Hunter uses the same 350 engine that is in the classic, meteor, bullet.
A long torquey engine.
And it pretends to be a street bike.
Thats a mismatch.
It just doesn't work.

Its not of my liking.
Sales numbers are good as its very tempting compared to other 350 prices by RE. And RE service is also best among all Indian brands.

Dont expect 350 cc hunter to be as agine and fast as a NS160 or RTR160.
I want to buy less maintainance, fuel efficient and a good looking bike , so my take would be on xsr 155 .

What's say ?
 
I tested the new fz hybrid yesterday.
It was nice. With hybrid you'll be getting very good mileage.

However if you prefer something more peppy and want to stick to brands service centres, Take mt15 or the new xsr. I cant tell about xsr because I've not seen it or drove it yet. Its just launched.

With mt15 you'll be getting usd. And a liquid cooled radiator which has fans. Thats another part to be maintained and filled. Mt and xsr have vva (fz doesnt). Which will give you best of both worlds. It'll give mileage over 40 and be fast at highways too.
Dont take anything without a test drive to know if it works for you.

I'd prefer a single seat and oil/air cooled ones for marginally less maintainance and comfort for pillion. Any bike without a rear monoshock or non abs is a big no for me.

I'm assuming you'd be on good roads most of the times. Yamahas have a little less ground clearance than tvs and bajaj.
Is there too much difference between telescopic and usd suspension?
 
Is there too much difference between telescopic and usd suspension?
By the looks. Its a major difference. People want the newest shinyest things. Golden USDs and colorfull Bluetooth connected tft displays are these things rn.

Functionality wise. Its not a serious difference.
Actually if fork seal gets damaged. The usd forks would die in minutes. It only happens earlier if you don't maintain the bike at all or happens when its meant to happen.

And about Bluetooth enabled tft consoles/speedometer.
Its not a must have for me.
You'll be fine without that too.
It does give some glance Info like texts and calls. And navigation too. Which helps sometimes.
And they'll be costly if needed replacement. Some even cost as much as phone.
 
By the looks. Its a major difference. People want the newest shinyest things. Golden USDs and colorfull Bluetooth connected tft displays are these things rn.

Functionality wise. Its not a serious difference.
Actually if fork seal gets damaged. The usd forks would die in minutes. It only happens earlier if you don't maintain the bike at all or happens when its meant to happen.

And about Bluetooth enabled tft consoles/speedometer.
Its not a must have for me.
You'll be fine without that too.
It does give some glance Info like texts and calls. And navigation too. Which helps sometimes.
And they'll be costly if needed replacement. Some even cost as much as phone.
Someone suggested here not to buy digital consoles
 
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