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ICICI Emeralde Private Metal - Application Process

I recently posted about My ICICI Emeralde Private Metal card. You can read it here - https://www.technofino.in/community...ome-emeralde-metal-private.25095/#post-594287.

And as I promised there, I am posting about my application process here.

The application process:
  • The relationship - I am an ICICI Wealth account holder courtesy my old salary account and the fact that all my home, car loans have been through ICICI Bank only. My AQB for ICICI is less than 10k since couple of years now. But I still have a home loan with them with a relatively low outstanding amount.
  • The invite - I had no upgrade/invite offer for the card. I had gone to my local branch for some home loan regarding query when I met the branch manager. We were having a chat about finance in general when I casually slipped in the thought that how ICICI is so far behind in the credit card game and how HDFC & Axis both have them beat. So then he asked me about the cards I hold from both banks (INFINIA & Magnus Burgundy) with their limits. He also mentioned about this new card called Emeralde Private Metal thats actually more exclusive than INFINIA and how it's only offered to a few wealth customers. He asked me if I would be interested in the card and obviously I said Yes.
  • The catch - He said since the card is invite only and I haven't received an upgrade/invite directly he would need to take approvals (4 in total) even before my application was processed and this might take around a month or so. He also clearly mentioned that even though he would put a good word there are no guarantees that the card would be issued. I gave him a thumbs up to proceed.
  • Application Process
    • He asked one of the guys in the cc team to get the following details from me (soft copies)
      • Salary slip last 3 months
      • INFINIA statement (since it had the highest credit limit)
      • 6 months bank statement (salary account)
      • ITR (3 years - optional)
      • I was also asked to drop an email stating that I want this card and would be willing to pay the annual fees for the same [Little weird, but I know how banks work so I quickly dashed off an email from my personal id]
    • Once all documents were provided begin a ~1 month approval process
      • After around 1-2 weeks, I got a call that 2 approval were received and 2 were pending.
      • I don't exactly know who were these 4 approvers but I remember correctly he mentioned 2 approvals need to come from ICICI CC Mumbai Head and then ICICI CC Division India head. [I don't fully remember but I think these were the designations]
      • Again got a call after another week that one last approval is pending.
      • Then just 3-4 days back I got a call saying all approvals were received and he would proceed with the application now.
    • As a part of the official application process, I had to do the following:
      • Provide my Adhaar and do a home biometric KYC.
      • Drop a message "ACT YES" from my official mobile to some ICICI number.
      • Verify my official email id [by providing the OTP received on the email]
      • Within a day of doing this, I could see the application on IMobile [Services -> Credit Cards -> Track my application]
    • Within next 2 days
      • First the card was generated and visible on IMobile
      • Next day got an email saying the card was dispatched via courier and received it the day after.
  • Rewards and benefits:
    • There is already an official review for this, so I'll just talk about benefits that I'll probably use.
    • Taj Epicure with 1N stay - My epicure membership expires this month so definitely saves me ~30k
    • 12500 Rewards points to offset the fees.
    • Unlimited domestic and international lounge access - For primary as well as supplementary card holders. My parents don't have CC's so will see if I can get the supplementary cards for them.
    • Rewards on insurance transaction - With Axis devaluation, this would help as I'll move my insurance spends here.
    • Flat reward structure like INFINIA - 3%
    • It comes with free cancellation up to 12k worth of flights/hotels. Might be useful for domestic tickets when travel plans are dicey.
    • No cash withdrawal fee, over limit or late payment charges.
    • The Metal card feels better to touch than INFINIA - ICICI & Emeralde Private engraving is classy. Feels really premium in the hand. Only thing I could nitpick was the card holder name engraving isn't the same quality as ICICI & Emeralde private engraving.

Footnotes:
  • Throughout the month long application process, I never tried to contact the branch for a status. Since I was told it would take around a month, I was patient with it.
  • Even though I badly wanted the card, had the application been rejected for any reason, my relationship with the bank would have still remained the same. Would have just asked the reason for rejection and accepted it. Even though it's a rare card, at the end of the day it's JUST A CARD.
  • I don't do banking relationships based on give/take or fear. Never threatened a bank or RM that I'll shift my business elsewhere if they don't do something for me. As a result, I have excellent relationships with 3 major banks - ICICI, HDFC & Axis. My personal experience - people generally do more for you out of love than fear.
  • Never bothered to ask about the criteria for FYF or LTF since the card benefits are worth the fees.
  • For anyone wishing to apply, I think the best bet is to visit your local branch and get in touch with the branch manager or CC team there.
 

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Better still is IDFC Wealth. You can get that for 10lacs balance in Saving or 30lacs relationship value. Saving interest is better and wealth debit card is best overall. Credit card payments and even Tax payments give you unbeatable rewards
 
Footnotes:
  • Throughout the month long application process, I never tried to contact the branch for a status. Since I was told it would take around a month, I was patient with it.
  • Even though I badly wanted the card, had the application been rejected for any reason, my relationship with the bank would have still remained the same. Would have just asked the reason for rejection and accepted it. Even though it's a rare card, at the end of the day it's JUST A CARD.
  • I don't do banking relationships based on give/take or fear. Never threatened a bank or RM that I'll shift my business elsewhere if they don't do something for me. As a result, I have excellent relationships with 3 major banks - ICICI, HDFC & Axis. My personal experience - people generally do more for you out of love than fear.
  • Never bothered to ask about the criteria for FYF or LTF since the card benefits are worth the fees.
Oh my god. Someone needed to say this out loud. Multiple times.
Although it's good, the best as of now actually, IT'S JUST A CARD!
 
I tried asking bank for epm, they are saying application stopped for epm for sometime?
Anyone recently applied?
Maybe they will start giving epm easily from next month, as they are businessmen 1st, samaj-seevak later (if at all).

Its wise to start giving epm in bulk. Then customers will spend more money = more profit for the bank. Then there are stuffs like cc of the year, bank of the year etc. as well.
 
Maybe they will start giving epm easily from next month, as they are businessmen 1st, samaj-seevak later (if at all).

Its wise to start giving epm in bulk. Then customers will spend more money = more profit for the bank. Then there are stuffs like cc of the year, bank of the year etc. as well.
Not really. They earn max 1.5-3% from cards and 3% is literally the base reward rate for EPM. For accelerated spends it goes upto 18 or even 36%!

There is zero chances they recover all these rewards from MDR or from missed payments. They recover these from the premium customers TRV and other non-cc relationships.
 
Not really. They earn max 1.5-3% from cards and 3% is literally the base reward rate for EPM. For accelerated spends it goes upto 18 or even 36%!

There is zero chances they recover all these rewards from MDR or from missed payments. They recover these from the premium customers TRV and other non-cc relationships.
Yes you are correct.
 
Not really. They earn max 1.5-3% from cards and 3% is literally the base reward rate for EPM. For accelerated spends it goes upto 18 or even 36%!

There is zero chances they recover all these rewards from MDR or from missed payments. They recover these from the premium customers TRV and other non-cc relationships.
I thought of another interesting point.

SBI is unique among cc issuing banks; because SBI bank and SBI cards are actually separate entities. Like different CEOs, different shareholders, everything different.


They do cross sell but the amount of cross interactions and interference will be very low simply because both SBI cards and SBI bank are publicly listed entities; highly regulated.


Now which SBI credit card do you know of that is issued based on TRV. NONE! And all SBI ccs are paid, the only criteria for fee waiver or ltf is spend based and spend based trend; again nothing to do with TRV or bank balance or whatever.


SBI Cards is, I believe, the only credit card entity to profit solely from cc fees, MDR and interests. Whereas for other banks like hdfc, axis, the banks use credit cards to lure premium customers and earn from TRV a lot more than from their premium credit cards.
 
Sorry, I didn't get your point? Are you trying to imply that I shouldn't have taken loans?
If yes then; yes on paper these are liabilities, but with no generational wealth if I waited to save the money to buy a house in a city like Mumbai I still wouldn't be able to afford one with all my life savings.
In Mumbai the price to rent ratio is more than 50 so it is prudent to rent instead of buying
 
In Mumbai the price to rent ratio is more than 50 so it is prudent to rent instead of buying
Sorry but I'll never buy this argument and I think no one should. Having your own place is such a peace of mind. There are plenty of reasons to buy a flat than rent (unless you are buying a house specifically as an investment and to put on rent). But if it's a house that you intend to live in, buying over rent is a no brainer.
 
ICICI EPM process:

I had Sapphiro LTF, Amazon Pay, Emirates Emeralde. Sapphiro is more than 10 years old and shared limit was above 13L.
No other relationship with ICICI

6th March : Went to a nearby ICICI branch, requested to upgrade Sapphiro to paid EPM, BM requested to open wealth account with 1 lac funding and submit ITR>36 L (last 3 years)

8th March: Received ICICI wealth kit with debit card and cheque book in a cheap brown fake leather pouch

12th March: EPM approved and is showing in ICICI imobile app

Just hope they don’t devalue it soon. Apparently now they have started issuing it to a lot of people. IMG_3886.webp
 
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ICICI EPM process:

I had Sapphiro LTF, Amazon Pay, Emirates Emeralde. Sapphiro is more than 10 years old and shared limit was above 13L.
No other relationship with ICICI

6th March : Went to a nearby ICICI branch, requested to upgrade Sapphiro to paid EPM, BM requested to open wealth account with 1 lac funding and submit ITR>36 L (last 3 years)

8th March: Received ICICI wealth kit with debit card and cheque book in a cheap brown fake leather pouch

12th March: EPM approved and is showing in ICICI imobile app

Just hope they don’t devalue it soon. Apparently now they have started issuing it to a lot of people.
By far the most lenient story to get EPM
 
ICICI EPM process:

I had Sapphiro LTF, Amazon Pay, Emirates Emeralde. Sapphiro is more than 10 years old and shared limit was above 13L.
No other relationship with ICICI

6th March : Went to a nearby ICICI branch, requested to upgrade Sapphiro to paid EPM, BM requested to open wealth account with 1 lac funding and submit ITR>36 L (last 3 years)

8th March: Received ICICI wealth kit with debit card and cheque book in a cheap brown fake leather pouch

12th March: EPM approved and is showing in ICICI imobile app

Just hope they don’t devalue it soon. Apparently now they have started issuing it to a lot of people.
Straight forward process. There is no PPOP concept here, so it means 36 ITR can do.
 
Straight forward process. There is no PPOP concept here, so it means 36 ITR can do.
I heavily doubt this is straight forward for everyone else.
I had my friend at icici forward my application for EPM internally based on salary. While the salary criteria is met, they almost mandatorily need ppop criteria to be met as well or something close maybe.

I dont know how @robinmahanta got so lucky
 
I heavily doubt this is straight forward for everyone else.
I had my friend at icici forward my application for EPM internally based on salary. While the salary criteria is met, they almost mandatorily need ppop criteria to be met as well or something close maybe.

I dont know how @robinmahanta got so lucky
Again proved it's everything in the hands of BM.

BM must be sitting next to EPM approvers.
 
ICICI EPM process:

I had Sapphiro LTF, Amazon Pay, Emirates Emeralde. Sapphiro is more than 10 years old and shared limit was above 13L.
No other relationship with ICICI

6th March : Went to a nearby ICICI branch, requested to upgrade Sapphiro to paid EPM, BM requested to open wealth account with 1 lac funding and submit ITR>36 L (last 3 years)

8th March: Received ICICI wealth kit with debit card and cheque book in a cheap brown fake leather pouch

12th March: EPM approved and is showing in ICICI imobile app

Just hope they don’t devalue it soon. Apparently now they have started issuing it to a lot of people.View attachment 86489
Which city tier 1 or tier 2?
 
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