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Axis Magnus HDFC Infinia and Axis Magnus comparison (as of July 22nd 2023)

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Now that Axis Magnus's devaluation is confirmed, I thought of comparing it with HDFC Infinia. I own both the cards (actually both me and wife currently hold Magnus and Infinia). So I've personal interest in the comparison.

Joining/Annual Fees and Benefits

First, regarding the fees. Both have similar joining fees of Rs 12500, though you can get Infinia plastic at a cheaper price of Rs 10000. The cards have similar renewal fees as well. Again, Infinia plastic is actually cheaper. But the significant advantage of HDFC Infinia is that they also give back equal number of points on paying annual fees. Axis Magnus is going to discontinue to that. That way, HDFC Infinia scores above Magnus on joining/annual fee benefits

General Spends

Infinia has a general reward rate of 5 points per Rs 150 spend, while Magnus has a rate of 6 points per Rs 200 spend, upto Rs 200000 per month. After that the rate goes up to 35 points per Rs 200.

Infinia
Magnus
Magnus + Burdundy
General SpendsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel PointsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel PointsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel Points
20000666. (3.33% )666. (3.33% )666. (3.33% )1200 (6% )240 (1.2% )480 (2.4% )1200 (6% )240 (1.2% )960 (4.8% )
1000003330. (3.33% )3330. (3.33% )3330. (3.33% )6000 (6% )1200 (1.2% )2400 (2.4% )6000 (6% )1200 (1.2% )4800 (4.8% )
3000009990. (3.33% )9990. (3.33% )9990. (3.33% )35250 (11.75% )7050 (2.35% )14100 (4.7% )35250 (11.75% )7050 (2.35% )28200 (9.4% )

So unless you've Magnus + Burgundy, Infinia does better for general spends. It also scores over Magnus + Burgundy if you are converting points into cash equivalent. But for higher monthly spends and Burgundy and transferring to airline/hotels, Magnus wins hands down. Now remember Burgundy 5:4 is time bound and Axis may change it any day. So I would rather go with Infinia.

TravelEdge/SmartBuy

Magnus offers 5x on TravelEdge for Hotel and flight booking, but now capped at 2L per month. After that the reward rate drops to 35 points per Rs 200. On the other hand, Infinia offers 5x on flight booking and 10x on hotel booking, but caps it to 15000 points per month. There is also a daily cap of 7500 points, so the actual Infinia benefits might even be lower.

Travel Portal
Infinia
Magnus
Magnus + Burdundy
HotelPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel PointsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel PointsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel Points
5000015000 (30% )15000 (30% )15000 (30% )15000 (30% )3000 (6% )6000 (12% )15000 (30% )3000 (6% )12000 (24% )
10000015000 (15% )15000 (15% )15000 (15% )30000 (30% )6000 (6% )12000 (12% )30000 (30% )6000 (6% )24000 (24% )
30000015000 (5% )15000 (5% )15000 (5% )77500 (25.83% )15500 (5.17% )31000 (10.33% )77500 (25.83% )15500 (5.17% )62000 (20.67% )
Airline
500008250 (16.5% )8250 (16.5% )8250 (16.5% )15000 (30% )3000 (6% )6000 (12% )15000 (30% )3000 (6% )12000 (24% )
10000015000 (15% )15000 (15% )15000 (15% )30000 (30% )6000 (6% )12000 (12% )30000 (30% )6000 (6% )24000 (24% )
30000015000 (5% )15000 (5% )15000 (5% )77500 (25.83% )15500 (5.17% )31000 (10.33% )77500 (25.83% )15500 (5.17% )62000 (20.67% )

For higher monthly spends on hotel and airline booking, Magnus + Burgundy beats Infinia by a huge margin. But for spends less than Rs 50000 for hotel bookings and Rs 1L for airline bookings, Infinia does very well. The monthly cap of 15000 points on Infinia makes it less attractive if your monthly (or even one time) spends are significant. If you spend 5-6L on hotel/airline once or twice in a year, you would want to seriously consider keeping Magnus and opening Burgundy account. Otherwise you can live with Infinia.

Gyftr Amazon Pay

Infinia still offers 5x on Amazon Pay vouchers whereas Magnus has scaled it down to 2x. With that context, Infinia scores inline with Magnus + Burgundy and beats Magnus handsomely

Gyftr
Infinia
Magnus
Magnus + Burdundy
APayPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel PointsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel PointsPointsCash/Cash EquivalentMiles/Hotel Points
200003300 (16.5% )3300 (16.5% )3300 (16.5% )2400 (12% )480 (2.4% )960 (4.8% )2400 (12% )480 (2.4% )1920 (9.6% )
ASV
200003300 (16.5% )3300 (16.5% )3300 (16.5% )3600 (18% )720 (3.6% )1440 (7.2% )3600 (18% )720 (3.6% )2880 (14.4% )


Conclusion

While Magnus has been devalued to a huge extent, it's still a good card for those who can keep Burgundy relationship, especially if monthly spends are significantly higher than Infinia's monthly cap. If you have (like me) multiple Magnus cards in the family, there is no point holding more than one. In fact, it's now detrimental to split expenses on 2 cards. I will surrender one of Magnus cards, but will keep the other and also maintain Burgundy status. Will review this decision a year from now when my Magnus comes for renewal again.

If I missed something or there are errors, please bring to my attention. Will update accordingly.
 
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They have complicated it too much with the reward structure. Earlier, the optimum spend point was 1L/month, now it is 2L/month. Also, Axis' customer service and the general attitude towards their customers don't inspire a lot of confidence in people to open new accounts with them, let alone start a Burgandy or private relationship. This deval so happens to be the final nail in the coffin.
Some things they should still clarify is whether accelerated rewards will be considered as per the spend slab for that month or whether would they take the 12ER/200 into consideration.
 
Infinia scores way ahead in other aspects.

1. Customer relationships
2. Rewards Credits
3. Easy use
4. Main is the Trust. Which I have lost in Axis. So whatever Axis does to lure customers now, I am not into it anymore.

I am waiting for my Infinia. Hopefully I will gwt within a week. After that bye bye to Axis forever.
I agree..now a days even MD desk are coming to rescue
 
I think Axis has perfectly placed Magnus and Reserve at the right selling points compared to competition!
Magnus for Burgundy; Reserve for Burgundy Private
therreby capturing 2 very premium segments.

Magnus gives 4.8% rewards (higher with vouchers)
Reserve gives 6% rewards (higher with vouchers)

I think this is better than Infinia or any other card. The only is Amex Platinum travel with a higher ~12% rewards but thats only till 4L Lakhs per annum
 
I think Axis has perfectly placed Magnus and Reserve at the right selling points compared to competition!
Magnus for Burgundy; Reserve for Burgundy Private
therreby capturing 2 very premium segments.

Magnus gives 4.8% rewards (higher with vouchers)
Reserve gives 6% rewards (higher with vouchers)

I think this is better than Infinia or any other card. The only is Amex Platinum travel with a higher ~12% rewards but thats only till 4L Lakhs per annum
Magnus with Burgandy is more lucrative. XD
For 5 CR, you'd expect better. Also, for Reserve, you will get only a 5:2 conversion. 5:4 is implied if you hold Burgandy private credit card that comes free with the relationship. So technically, it is 5:4 for any card held along with Burgandy Private not only Reserve.
 
Magnus with Burgandy is more lucrative. XD
For 5 CR, you'd expect better. Also, for Reserve, you will get only a 5:2 conversion. 5:4 is implied if you hold Burgandy private credit card that comes free with the relationship. So technically, it is 5:4 for any card held along with Burgandy Private not only Reserve.
So, if monthly spends are >2 Lakh, Magnus is best …else, Reserve can be better if one is Burgundy Private..

For me,
1. Amex Platinum Travel till 4Lakhs for ~12%
2. Magnus for about 2.5 Lakhs monthly spends for 10.6%
 
So, if monthly spends are >2 Lakh, Magnus is best …else, Reserve can be better if one is Burgundy Private..

For me,
1. Amex Platinum Travel till 4Lakhs for ~12%
2. Magnus for about 2.5 Lakhs monthly spends for 10.6%
I should disagree with that as well. Magnus with the 5:4 beats reserve after 2L easily at less than a quarter of the price. It's only under 1.5L that the reserve rewards better. But that at that spend point, if you account for the annual fee, it's just marginally higher than the Magnus.
 
I should disagree with that as well. Magnus with the 5:4 beats reserve after 2L easily at less than a quarter of the price. It's only under 1.5L that the reserve rewards better. But that at that spend point, if you account for the annual fee, it's just marginally higher than the Magnus.
I think that’s close to what I also said.. agreed!
 
Infinia scores way ahead in other aspects.

1. Customer relationships
2. Rewards Credits
3. Easy use
4. Main is the Trust. Which I have lost in Axis. So whatever Axis does to lure customers now, I am not into it anymore.

I am waiting for my Infinia. Hopefully I will gwt within a week. After that bye bye to Axis forever.
How did you get Infinia?
 
it is 35 points for every 200 after 1.5 lakhs. Not 2 lakhs.
Also magnus + burgandy is time bound. It is not a permanent feature of I understand right.
And that time is not known to anyone. Also, Axis has complicated the entire Magnus CC now.

I have imperia banking with HDFC along with LTF Infinia.

Starting banking with Axis Burgundy is very easy, however general feedback is that their services are pathetic.

I am planning to have monthly spend pattern as following

Atlas 1.5L Travel only spend
Vistara Infinite till I hit 7.5L annual.
Amex Plat Travel till 4L annual
Infinia all leftover
Magnus 0 per month, retire the card before next renewal.
 
And that time is not known to anyone. Also, Axis has complicated the entire Magnus CC now.

I have imperia banking with HDFC along with LTF Infinia.

Starting banking with Axis Burgundy is very easy, however general feedback is that their services are pathetic.

I am planning to have monthly spend pattern as following

Atlas 1.5L Travel only spend
Vistara Infinite till I hit 7.5L annual.
Amex Plat Travel till 4L annual
Infinia all leftover
Magnus 0 per month, retire the card before next renewal.
This is a good strategy. I agree with you on the Burgandy relationship. I believe in building my banking relationship gradually depending on the service I receive from the branch as well as the banking entity. Everything I've heard so far about the Axis is dissuasive.
 
And that time is not known to anyone. Also, Axis has complicated the entire Magnus CC now.

I have imperia banking with HDFC along with LTF Infinia.

Starting banking with Axis Burgundy is very easy, however general feedback is that their services are pathetic.

I am planning to have monthly spend pattern as following

Atlas 1.5L Travel only spend
Vistara Infinite till I hit 7.5L annual.
Amex Plat Travel till 4L annual
Infinia all leftover
Magnus 0 per month, retire the card before next renewal.
Seems to be good strategy.
 
And that time is not known to anyone. Also, Axis has complicated the entire Magnus CC now.

I have imperia banking with HDFC along with LTF Infinia.

Starting banking with Axis Burgundy is very easy, however general feedback is that their services are pathetic.

I am planning to have monthly spend pattern as following

Atlas 1.5L Travel only spend
Vistara Infinite till I hit 7.5L annual.
Amex Plat Travel till 4L annual
Infinia all leftover
Magnus 0 per month, retire the card before next renewal.
Seems like a good strategy but HDFC is not giving DCB or Infinia to everyone. I meet the salary criteria but still no luck. I don’t want to use Regalia as it has very poor reward ratio.

I am 2 to 3 lakhs short of 15lakhs milestone on Magnus. (August will still get 25k milestone). I will continue using till then and hope axis improves the card after sometime. And I will apply for Amex Plat travel card meanwhile.

I will use Regalia on smartbuy where magnus has only 2x while I am with magnus.
Use Amex MRCC upto 20k every month.

I need better cards to improve my strategy.
 
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