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Sobirvs said:
So this post got into my head, and from last 4-5 days I have been watching videos after videos and reading reddit posts about legion series and they do surely look and feel amazing. I got so impressed that 3 days back I called Lenovo 10 times to cancel, but they said customized laptops can't be cancelled and chargeback isn't an option for me here as I want to buy from Lenovo only. Emailed Lenovo and higher up and amusing thing is Lenovo can't even see my order and are saying my order isn't confirmed, they can't even see my order no in their system.

In the email chain where I told them to cancel, they are saying they are following up with this internally meanwhile the sale is almost over and I'm kinda screwed. But after 3 days where my order isn't cancelled yet and neither have I made new order of a Legion, I kinda feel p16 gen 2 isn't bad at all, it's amazing anyways and if Lenovo ships that laptop, I'll live with it. But ThinkPad's resale value is prolly shit right meanwhile legion's are popular so resale value shd be good (just in case if i decide to sell it in future).

But legions have their own problems and reddit/youtube are filled with posts and videos telling that legions suck, they have many manufacturing problems. I love legion 5i pro, 7i, 7i pro and ofc 9i. 9i has weird keyboard and touchpad placement so ofc i won't go with that and thankfully their price tag is such that it is easy for me to ignore. 9i's cooling system is a gimmick anyways.

One good thing abt p16g2 that i ordered is that is has 4 ram slots and 2 ssd slots, so upgrading would be a breeze (i ordered 32x2 ram with lenovo), but why shd i be worried abt 2 slots in legions anyways as it can be equipped with 64gb ram and m anyways buying 64 only with p16g2. And p16g2 has ram speed limitations of 3600/4000mt/s coz of platform limitation as per lenovo (wtf does that even mean?) and in legions i can easily max out ram's so i am craving for legions. Legions ofc are easily more beautiful compared to the fatty p16g2 but p16g2 will give me cool/quite system compared to legions i think as it is quite fatty (reddit posts say otherwise than p16g2 makes alot of noise and heat up ugh).

Videos of legions are tbh very very confusing , first all legions specs are different and build too if we compare it with indian variant, then next, indian variant themselves have 2023vs2024 variants and 2024 variants have quite less videos (may be 2-3 videos max for 7i pro and 9) so i have less information at hand here and ofc lenovo won't let me try the laptops. I am inclining towards 7i for now as even though it is big, it is not as big as the pro's, and 4060 with 8 gigs shd be enough for my use case (which is 0% gaming) and i am confused for i7/i9, i do care for performance (specially for win 11, with VM and chrome(on host) and i want the best performance. I am thinking of getting 16gb ram variant not 32, so that when it arrives, I'll buy a 32gb ram seperate which will make my total ram 48gigs, that shd be more than enough. I do want it to go 64gb but why waste money when i know even 48gb is overkill for me. But what m confused abt is which one, 7i or 7i pro or 5i/5i pro as information on these laptops in indian youtube is quite less specially of 2024 variants. I am still going through the info.

Ofc I'll go with legions only if lenovo gives me a commitment of cancelling p16g2(m i making the right choice? as p16g2 is amazing too in a diff manner). Will keep everyone updated once i get updated with lenovo.

There is another possibility that if lenovo cancels my orde rafter 3rd nov(when offers/sale stops) then I'll be truely screwed coz discounts/cashbacks/affiliate discounts have quite ruined me. thinkpad p16g2 i got for 2.25L (after every discount/etc) and i am getting legion 7i for 1.3L (after all cashback/discounts). 7i pro i am getting for around 2.65L. All are in my budget but ofc I rather spend less and get the best bang for my buck. I don't care for GPU but 4060 in 7i shd be more than enough for me no? Let's see what happens.
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Sobirvs said:
So this post got into my head, and from last 4-5 days I have been watching videos after videos and reading reddit posts about legion series and they do surely look and feel amazing. I got so impressed that 3 days back I called Lenovo 10 times to cancel, but they said customized laptops can't be cancelled and chargeback isn't an option for me here as I want to buy from Lenovo only. Emailed Lenovo and higher up and amusing thing is Lenovo can't even see my order and are saying my order isn't confirmed, they can't even see my order no in their system.

In the email chain where I told them to cancel, they are saying they are following up with this internally meanwhile the sale is almost over and I'm kinda screwed. But after 3 days where my order isn't cancelled yet and neither have I made new order of a Legion, I kinda feel p16 gen 2 isn't bad at all, it's amazing anyways and if Lenovo ships that laptop, I'll live with it. But ThinkPad's resale value is prolly shit right meanwhile legion's are popular so resale value shd be good (just in case if i decide to sell it in future).

But legions have their own problems and reddit/youtube are filled with posts and videos telling that legions suck, they have many manufacturing problems. I love legion 5i pro, 7i, 7i pro and ofc 9i. 9i has weird keyboard and touchpad placement so ofc i won't go with that and thankfully their price tag is such that it is easy for me to ignore. 9i's cooling system is a gimmick anyways.

One good thing abt p16g2 that i ordered is that is has 4 ram slots and 2 ssd slots, so upgrading would be a breeze (i ordered 32x2 ram with lenovo), but why shd i be worried abt 2 slots in legions anyways as it can be equipped with 64gb ram and m anyways buying 64 only with p16g2. And p16g2 has ram speed limitations of 3600/4000mt/s coz of platform limitation as per lenovo (wtf does that even mean?) and in legions i can easily max out ram's so i am craving for legions. Legions ofc are easily more beautiful compared to the fatty p16g2 but p16g2 will give me cool/quite system compared to legions i think as it is quite fatty (reddit posts say otherwise than p16g2 makes alot of noise and heat up ugh).

Videos of legions are tbh very very confusing , first all legions specs are different and build too if we compare it with indian variant, then next, indian variant themselves have 2023vs2024 variants and 2024 variants have quite less videos (may be 2-3 videos max for 7i pro and 9) so i have less information at hand here and ofc lenovo won't let me try the laptops. I am inclining towards 7i for now as even though it is big, it is not as big as the pro's, and 4060 with 8 gigs shd be enough for my use case (which is 0% gaming) and i am confused for i7/i9, i do care for performance (specially for win 11, with VM and chrome(on host) and i want the best performance. I am thinking of getting 16gb ram variant not 32, so that when it arrives, I'll buy a 32gb ram seperate which will make my total ram 48gigs, that shd be more than enough. I do want it to go 64gb but why waste money when i know even 48gb is overkill for me. But what m confused abt is which one, 7i or 7i pro or 5i/5i pro as information on these laptops in indian youtube is quite less specially of 2024 variants. I am still going through the info.

Ofc I'll go with legions only if lenovo gives me a commitment of cancelling p16g2(m i making the right choice? as p16g2 is amazing too in a diff manner). Will keep everyone updated once i get updated with lenovo.

There is another possibility that if lenovo cancels my orde rafter 3rd nov(when offers/sale stops) then I'll be truely screwed coz discounts/cashbacks/affiliate discounts have quite ruined me. thinkpad p16g2 i got for 2.25L (after every discount/etc) and i am getting legion 7i for 1.3L (after all cashback/discounts). 7i pro i am getting for around 2.65L. All are in my budget but ofc I rather spend less and get the best bang for my buck. I don't care for GPU but 4060 in 7i shd be more than enough for me no? Let's see what happens.
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First I decided to skip your ask for the reasoning because I don't like typing huge paras.
but now that you have considered my suggestion Let me tell you by first repeating my words once again - You should go for Lenogo Legion 5i Pro with Intel i9.

Particularly this one https://www.amazon.in/Lenovo-i9-14900HX-40-64cm-500Nits-83DF003PIN/dp/B0CXPY5HF2
Or on the Lenovo website. Customize this one with the best configuration. https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/configurator/cto/index.html?bundleId=83DFCTO1WWIN1

Do not consider Legion 7i or its pro. 7i has a full aluminium body but the performance is worse. 7i pro and or 9i series, I won't suggest because of their bad price-to-performance ratio.

The only con in the Lenovo Legion series is their speakers.
If you want an OLED, go for the Asus Zephyrus G16 OLED series. You will get the best audio and display ever seen on any Windows laptop yet. Overall Performance is slightly lower than Legion, but they are very beautiful and a full package devices. Personally, I like their compact G14 series. But they are 14 inch laptops, will not suit your need.

Rest whatever you buy in laptops will either be bad or will have a very bad price-to-performance ratio.
As per your need, Legion and Zephyrus with Intel i9 series are the best laptops (1.5L to 3L range). No one in a sane mind will suggest any Windows laptop with more than 3L price tag.
 
imdjay said:
Personally, I like their compact G14 series. But they are 14 inch laptops, will not suit your need.
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yep, 14" and no numpad is a loser for me. I saw the g14 series on Dave2D channel when I was checking legion's out, they indeed are beautiful. Even though I love the white edition, we know how in indian household (or any household) stains are a huge prob so white is a no go for me unless I am a youtuber and brands are willing to give me free laptops hence why dave prolly like the white one.

imdjay said:
You should go for Lenogo Legion 5i Pro with Intel i9.
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The reason even though I know it's a great laptop, I don't want legions are the build. Polycarbonate is not for me. One of the reasons among many that I have listed in this thread for why I hate my current asus S15 is it has half aluminum and half plastic body. The plastic feels bad. I have heard the only plastic laptop which feels premium are thinkpads. The one I ordered afaik are full metal build, the p16g2.

I tbh don't care much for price to performance ratio as my need is literally 0% gaming and will remain 0 in future too atleast on laptops. Even my current ps5 is collecting dust from last 8 months as I have touched it like may be once. My controller joystick today felt like it has gone bad coz I didn't touch my ps5 from long and had to move joystick like 20-30 times to get it to functional normal(phew). I want the laptop purely for performance for work, VM and chrome. If when you say performance is in gaming, then i don't care for it. Aluminum body is what I crave which makes me feel I spend some good money on my laptop as my current asus s15 feels like a shit laptop for the money I paid for it. I am still exploring legions but youtube doesn't have much detailed content. What I hated abt 7i is the speakers are fully down firing, but 5i pro's speakers are bit side down'ish which is atleast better than 7i's. I might have to go to few stores to check them out in person.

But this all doesn't matter coz I think lenovo won't cancel my p16g2 order. Lenovo usually don't cancel customized orders. So, gotta wait for some action on that order before I start using my card more this month.
 
Alright here's an update, after telling me Customized laptops order can't be cancelled, lenovo has gone ahead and cancelled my order.

I don't know if they cancelled it coz I told them so or they cancelled it coz they can't fulfill it. The email (attached SS) says they aren't able to fulfill it.

Anyways, now I am ready to go for legion but 2 problems. 1st, idk which one to get, 5ipro or 7i/7i pro. and 2nd almost no coupons are working now. The sale seems to be over. The cashback offer is over too https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/lenovo-offer-details/?lIPromoID=LEN669678 as last date was 3rd nov but in laptop's page under legion it still says 12k offer is there as attached SS. This is confusing AF. Anyways, seems like I'm kind of stuck now ugh.

I am happy and kind of disappointed at the same time. p16g2 was amazing and finally I would have tried their ThinkPad line for the first time which is popularly known for their build quality. But I also know resale value of the p16 would have been shit compared to legions which is a consumer laptop and are popular so resale just in case would have been breeze so I am happy I am going for a legion.

edit : Looks like the offer is till 4th Nov (today). Damn. Checking out everything right now.

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Sobirvs said:
Alright here's an update, after telling me Customized laptops order can't be cancelled, lenovo has gone ahead and cancelled my order.

I don't know if they cancelled it coz I told them so or they cancelled it coz they can't fulfill it. The email (attached SS) says they aren't able to fulfill it.

Anyways, now I am ready to go for legion but 2 problems. 1st, idk which one to get, 5ipro or 7i/7i pro. and 2nd almost no coupons are working now. The sale seems to be over. The cashback offer is over too https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/lenovo-offer-details/?lIPromoID=LEN669678 as last date was 3rd nov but in laptop's page under legion it still says 12k offer is there as attached SS. This is confusing AF. Anyways, seems like I'm kind of stuck now ugh.

I am happy and kind of disappointed at the same time. p16g2 was amazing and finally I would have tried their ThinkPad line for the first time which is popularly known for their build quality. But I also know resale value of the p16 would have been shit compared to legions which is a consumer laptop and are popular so resale just in case would have been breeze so I am happy I am going for a legion.

edit : Looks like the offer is till 4th Nov (today). Damn. Checking out everything right now.

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ramirami said:
ThinkPad P or T series.

Clear answer in my opinion.
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T series doesn't have numpad's which is my requirement.

P series there's only one laptop I liked and i.e p16 gen 2 and I did order it only to cancel it coz legion's stole my heart.
 

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Update : I went for Legion 7i. As I said before gaming isn't my priority. I could have gone full ballistic and spent 2L on this model with all the upgrades possible or went with 7i pro or 9i. But with my use case I think I went with decent specs.

Quite a major reason I went with 7i was it has a fingerprint reader where as other legions don't. Full metal body which 5i/pro don't.

I choose the color white because it's just god damn beautiful and being metal, it won't turn yellow unlike in cases of plastic where it happens.

I went with i7 rather than i9 coz i9 have reported very high heating issues and i7 is still quite an upgrade for me in terms of cores compared to my current one.

I went with QHD display 240hz rather than DCIp3 coz it was really not needed for me.

Went with 512 SSD coz I mostly use cloud anyways. I use my current laptop with hardly 40% usage which is also 512gb and most cases when you resell the laptop, people hardly care abt storage space. I can always upgrade it later in festive sales.

ofc went with rgb keyboard (when you add white, rgb automatically get's added

3yr upgrade on ADP/Warranty/ultimate support.

RTX 4060 coz no gaming so no need for 4070.

Ram - I wanted to go for 16gb ram only as I know I'll upgrade it later but I didn't wanted to add useless expense so for now I went with 16x16 32gb ram and later in festive season I'll upgrade if I have to.

It's costing me 1.29L after all the discounts/offers/couponds/cashback/affiliate link.

Shipping : it shows 21st Nov but my mouse and bag is already shipped within 3 hours(mouse) and 14 hours(bag) of order placement. Laptop will take time.

Btw I got my refund of p16 already yesterday, quite amazing service from lenovo.

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Sobirvs said:
Update : I went for Legion 7i. As I said before gaming isn't my priority. I could have gone full ballistic and spent 2L on this model with all the upgrades possible or went with 7i pro or 9i. But with my use case I think I went with decent specs.

Quite a major reason I went with 7i was it has a fingerprint reader where as other legions don't. Full metal body which 5i/pro don't.

I choose the color white because it's just god damn beautiful and being metal, it won't turn yellow unlike in cases of plastic where it happens.

I went with i7 rather than i9 coz i9 have reported very high heating issues and i7 is still quite an upgrade for me in terms of cores compared to my current one.

I went with QHD display 240hz rather than DCIp3 coz it was really not needed for me.

Went with 512 SSD coz I mostly use cloud anyways. I use my current laptop with hardly 40% usage which is also 512gb and most cases when you resell the laptop, people hardly care abt storage space. I can always upgrade it later in festive sales.

ofc went with rgb keyboard (when you add white, rgb automatically get's added

3yr upgrade on ADP/Warranty/ultimate support.

RTX 4060 coz no gaming so no need for 4070.

Ram - I wanted to go for 16gb ram only as I know I'll upgrade it later but I didn't wanted to add useless expense so for now I went with 16x16 32gb ram and later in festive season I'll upgrade if I have to.

It's costing me 1.29L after all the discounts/offers/couponds/cashback/affiliate link.

Shipping : it shows 21st Nov but my mouse and bag is already shipped within 3 hours(mouse) and 14 hours(bag) of order placement. Laptop will take time.

Btw I got my refund of p16 already yesterday, quite amazing service from lenovo.

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Sobirvs said:
Update : I went for Legion 7i. As I said before gaming isn't my priority. I could have gone full ballistic and spent 2L on this model with all the upgrades possible or went with 7i pro or 9i. But with my use case I think I went with decent specs.

Quite a major reason I went with 7i was it has a fingerprint reader where as other legions don't. Full metal body which 5i/pro don't.

I choose the color white because it's just god damn beautiful and being metal, it won't turn yellow unlike in cases of plastic where it happens.

I went with i7 rather than i9 coz i9 have reported very high heating issues and i7 is still quite an upgrade for me in terms of cores compared to my current one.

I went with QHD display 240hz rather than DCIp3 coz it was really not needed for me.

Went with 512 SSD coz I mostly use cloud anyways. I use my current laptop with hardly 40% usage which is also 512gb and most cases when you resell the laptop, people hardly care abt storage space. I can always upgrade it later in festive sales.

ofc went with rgb keyboard (when you add white, rgb automatically get's added

3yr upgrade on ADP/Warranty/ultimate support.

RTX 4060 coz no gaming so no need for 4070.

Ram - I wanted to go for 16gb ram only as I know I'll upgrade it later but I didn't wanted to add useless expense so for now I went with 16x16 32gb ram and later in festive season I'll upgrade if I have to.

It's costing me 1.29L after all the discounts/offers/couponds/cashback/affiliate link.

Shipping : it shows 21st Nov but my mouse and bag is already shipped within 3 hours(mouse) and 14 hours(bag) of order placement. Laptop will take time.

Btw I got my refund of p16 already yesterday, quite amazing service from lenovo.

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I'm baffled by the patience with which you write posts....
My engineering answers were smaller 😉
Btw, good choice and I hope Lenovo delivers this time 😀
 
Riya said:
I'm baffled by the patience with which you write posts....
My engineering answers were smaller 😉
Btw, good choice and I hope Lenovo delivers this time 😀
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Exactly !!! he seems to be very detail oriented and picky on his choices. I really wish to see how he builds his house and the interiors?
 
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HumorSimpson said:
I really wish to see how he builds his house and the interiors?
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Detailing I do coz I expect people to understand my POV and situation so that they can give me detailed solutions but most people on the interwebs usually aren't able to lol.

haha, this is a sneak peak of my bedroom lol, Video doorbell wireless with AC Chime plugged in, PS5, LG OLED G2, 4 deco's (2 in living room) , most of the wiring inside and I am still annoyed by the some wiring that is shown. Wait till u see my living room and others (I am not showing haha). I am not a maximalist (like Sonakshi dumbfuck sinha) but more minimalist to make sure home looks decent and never overdone. I plan to buy a new luxury flat may be in Gurgaon/Noida this year or at most next year. I could have moved in Jan this year only but some work BS is limiting me and I have so many ideas for interiors that I am adamant on implementing but my GF (prolly soon to be wife) will probably overrule me ugh.
 
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Sobirvs said:
Detailing I do coz I expect people to understand my POV and situation so that they can give me detailed solutions but most people on the interwebs usually aren't able to lol.

haha, this is a sneak peak of my bedroom lol, Video doorbell wireless with AC Chime plugged in, PS5, LG OLED G2, 4 deco's (2 in living room) , most of the wiring inside and I am still annoyed by the some wiring that is shown. Wait till u see my living room and others (I am not showing haha). I am not a maximalist (like Sonakshi dumbfuck sinha) but more minimalist to make sure home looks decent and never overdone. I plan to buy a new luxury flat may be in Gurgaon/Noida this year or at most next year. I could have moved in Jan this year only but some work BS is limiting me and I have so many ideas for interiors that I am adamant on implementing but my GF (prolly soon to be wife) will probably overrule me ugh.



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ok switching gears now !!!
for nintendo switch 2 , can't we play offline games ? I am noob, trying to understand this games.
 
btw I'll be letting go of my Asus Vivobook S 15 OLED S5504VA-MA543WS.

Edit : Will enroll in RML soon.


HumorSimpson said:
ok switching gears now !!!
for nintendo switch 2 , can't we play offline games ? I am noob, trying to understand this games.
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I don't have nintendo so no idea.
 
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Sobirvs said:
btw I'll be letting go of my Asus Vivobook S 15 OLED S5504VA-MA543WS. DM if anyone wants it. It's in brand new condition without a single scratch or dent etc comes with charger/bill all.

Mods pls delete this post if this isn't allowed on this forum, as I am not aware and google didn't produce any results if selling is allowed or not.
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Buy RML subscription and post in RML lounge. BTW at what price ?
 
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