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LTCG hiked to 12.5%. Big blow to investors.

Chalo i am happy sirf hum equity walo ki kyu lage who delibrately decided to stay away from mafia real estate...govt sabko barabar lootegi toh bhi humare money ki value equal rahegi
Don't know whether to laugh or cry as have invested in both.. 😑
 
Its a huge blow dear.
I made 10L profit last year.
Did surgery also so sold all of them.
What i get for medical is around 50k deduction
What i spent around 15L and around 5L on my wife as medical Expense.

What tax i already paying is 15% which is around 1.5L and again additional 15% on overall income..

And what i get is return is almost nothing

And now will have to 20%

ANd what logic govt saying.

We are concerned about ratailers???
Really any logic??
 
Applicable from FY'25-26 or AY'26-27. So no worries for profits booked till March 31, 2025. 2.5% extra not much and it is also for selected financial gains not everywhere. My heart broke for 0.02% STT on FnO. STCG @20% is done so as to discourage middle class from risking money in FnO. Middle class people are actually day dreamers and to get rich, they take risk without analysis. I have seen many middle class young age people commiting suicide around me. So nice step. It should have been 25% on STCG from Markets.

I want crypto to be completely banned in India. 95% people lose their money in markets. The generation that invested after Covid don't know the financial risk and turmoils happened in 1929 followed by 2008. I witnessed all my profits going down drain in 2008 and luckily I somehow exited with small gains but took a life lesson and never going to repeat mistake. Some are investing in stock markets as if they go one side only. Since 2021 comeback markets have not seen majot correction which is unhealthy thing happening.
Implementing taxes will increase revenue only.
People will not gonna stop trading at any cost.
If govt want and really care
They shoud set minimum criteria or any eligibilty criteria.
Like if cetain capital required or Certain Skills or eeucation Required
I am doing trading from 2018 and my innitial days i made losses.
Then i quit learned and then came again
I still take small risk just to fulfill needs and want to earn some extra income.
Not everyone wants to make Rich in a day.

Govt is finding every way to implement taxes on middle class..
 
A few months ago, I read a paper indicating that banks outside the top three (SBI, HDFC, ICICI) are experiencing some pressure as people are opting to invest in the stock market rather than parking their funds in fixed deposits (FDs). This move might be aimed at discouraging stock market investments and encouraging citizens to consider FDs as a simpler investment option once again.
They attracted mutual fund investment by giving them benefit. Govt aim is not to shift money from stock markets and back to banks. Banks already have enough of money. The more money stays out of FDs and move to market, less pressure on banks as interest outflows stops. Govt is aiming to reduce or discourage people from risking their life savings to more safe zones. America allowed people to use their money as they want. Result is 90% Americans today are under huge debts and can't even pay on time. Result: banks went down the drain. It was America that recovered with drug money. We are India and we have made our lives on savings. We can't go gaga over few years of stock market gains no matter how good these are and put a big portion into a machine that burns money at faster rate that it provides.

People will say, this is my money and I have all the right to where I use it. But at same time when people will start committing suicide or start leveraging their position with the money they don't own, real problem will start. After 2008 financial fiasco, Americans in large numbers died or shifted to cheaper places lead to fall in labour. America and Europe somehow migarted cheap labour in large number from Asia and get back on track. Who will give us cheap labour if a turnmoil hits our economy? No one.

So Govt ko har taraf sochna hai. Ab ghar ke bade bhi yahi seekh dete hai ki land or gold mein zyada lagayo aur markets mein 25% se zyada nahi. But trends are showing people especially from middle class are blindly putting money in markets unaware of fact that the same markets will correct 50% in next 5-7 years and they will then take a pledge not to invest back in markets again.

Har cheez apne nazariye se nahi dekhni chahiye. Agar aage gadda hai aur koi tumhe rok raha hai toh tum apni freedom aur liberalization ka use larle agar khud ko gairna chahtey ho toh beshaq jayo khade mein.

0.01 se 0.02% STT hone se gareeb toh ni ho rahe log. 5% log bhi actual mein profit nahi bana rahe markets se. Yeh kadwa sach hai. Jo bana rahe hai unko tax nahi dena toh jaake foreign mein settle ho jayo aur flat 20% tax dedo.

Bitter truth is most of the new investors who came to market due to Covid saga knows nothing about how stock market works. They haven't seen the dark side of it yet. But don't worry. Markets have burned hands in centuries and only retails have lost bigger than rich. History will again teach this new investors a lesson that they will be begging on streets sooner than later. When time is shining, it makes people blind and only when clouds take over, real truth gets unlocked. Sab ke sab bakc*** apne bil mein ghusenge agle 4-5 saal mein.

Gold bubble created in India will burst in some days. All those who were talking of gold hitting 1 Lakh this year are going underground now. Same way this market bubble that has created in India in last 4 years will go burst once Modi govt goes away or even if somehow I.N.D.I.A forms a govt before 2029.
 
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They attracted mutual fund investment by giving them benefit. Govt aim is not to shift money from stock markets and back to banks. Banks already have enough of money. The more money stays out of FDs and move to market, less pressure on banks as interest outflows stops. Govt is aiming to reduce or discourage people from risking their life savings to more safe zones. America allowed people to use their money as they want. Result is 90% Americans today are under huge debts and can't even pay on time. Result: banks went down the drain. It was America that recovered with drug money. We are India and we have made our lives on savings. We can't go gaga over few years of stock market gains no matter how good these are and put a big portion into a machine that burns money at faster rate that it provides.

People will say, this is my money and I have all the right to where I use it. But at same time when people will start committing suicide or start leveraging their position with the money they don't own, real problem will start. After 2008 financial fiasco, Americans in large numbers died or shifted to cheaper places lead to fall in labour. America and Europe somehow migarted cheap labour in large number from Asia and get back on track. Who will give us cheap labour if a turnmoil hits our economy? No one.

So Govt ko har taraf sochna hai. Ab ghar ke bade bhi yahi seekh dete hai ki land or gold mein zyada lagayo aur markets mein 25% se zyada nahi. But trends are showing people especially from middle class are blindly putting money in markets unaware of fact that the same markets will correct 50% in next 5-7 years and they will then take a pledge not to invest back in markets again.

Har cheez apne nazariye se nahi dekhni chahiye. Agar aage gadda hai aur koi tumhe rok raha hai toh tum apni freedom aur liberalization ka use larle agar khud ko gairna chahtey ho toh beshaq jayo khade mein.

0.01 se 0.02% STT hone se gareeb toh ni ho rahe log. 5% log bhi actual mein profit nahi bana rahe markets se. Yeh kadwa sach hai. Jo bana rahe hai unko tax nahi dena toh jaake foreign mein settle ho jayo aur flat 20% tax dedo.

Bitter truth is most of the new investors who came to market due to Covid saga knows nothing about how stock market works. They haven't seen the dark side of it yet. But don't worry. Markets have burned hands in centuries and only retails have lost bigger than rich. History will again teach this new investors a lesson that they will be begging on streets sooner than later. When time is shining, it makes people blind and only when clouds take over, real truth gets unlocked. Sab ke sab bakc*** apne bil mein ghusenge agle 4-5 saal mein.

Gold bubble created in India will burst in some days. All those who were talking of gold hitting 1 Lakh this year are going underground now. Same way this market bubble that has created in India in last 4 years will go burst once Modi govt goes away or even if somehow I.N.D.I.A forms a govt before 2029
First of all.. investing in markets for long term (10+ years) have ALWAYS given better returns than FDs or gold. Your above logic applies to gold also.. remember gold rates in India are more dependent on USD INR rates than international gold rates.

Agree that F&O investing should be actively discouraged as this burns retail investors and only big bulls and institutional investors win.
Also whilst markets may be overvalued however this is definitely not a bubble. and political changes have rarely impacted markets in India in long term. Remember ppl had predicted a market crash if BJP did not get a majority. And even with this coalition, markets dont seem to care.

And yes I agree, new investors dont understand anything and have not seen 2008, or 2000 or 1980s and 1990s black fridays and black Mondays.
 
And yes I agree, new investors dont understand anything and have not seen 2008, or 2000 or 1980s and 1990s black fridays and black Mondays.
I am waiting man want one more of that type of crash before my retirement...always gives lifetime sale prices for best stocks
 
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Applicable from FY'25-26 or AY'26-27. So no worries for profits booked till March 31, 2025. 2.5% extra not much and it is also for selected financial gains not everywhere.
Bro in which world you are??🤔🤔

Seriously FY25-26??😡😡
I hope you are aware that this is current year budget!! 🤣🤣
Please do proper research and go through the annexures.😑😑

Everything will be applicable from today unless specifically implementation date is not mentioned!!😤😤
 
Not going to happen any time soon. There are so many people investing as well as waiting to invest
Same was there in October 2008 when rosy picture met real truth afterwards. Danger at that time was less as many were not part of it. Danger is big today with 10 crore new investor came in 2-3 years. Brokers are busy opening demat and lying with tips.

Failing startups currently is a sign that India doesn't hold the strength it is trying to show. I am not a negative person and do invest in markets no matter what time is it but keep sidelining money in safer assets. Invest but with caution. If 50% of your total assets is in equities than you are always at danger of going down in life.
 
Today indexing has been removed from real estate. Most probably to test the waters and reaction. Tomorrow or in the near future it will be removed from stock as well..
In stock when we got Indexing benefits??🤔🤔

As per my knowledge, currently there is no indexation benefits on equity.😤😤

Please correct me if I am wrong!!😑😑
 
If 50% of your total assets is in equities than you are always at danger of going down in life.
I would argue it is the other way round...if you have even close to 50% or imo >20% in non-equity you have v. less probability of moving up a level in life

Not investing in equity (to guard against inflation) is riskier than the volatility involved in equity

Equity is like fire - you have to know how to use fire and be safe but you cannot survive without it. Lot of people might get burnt by fire (sometimes just bad luck despite all precautions) but those who decided not to use fire are extinct now
 
In stock when we got Indexing benefits??🤔🤔

As per my knowledge, currently there is no indexation benefits on equity.😤😤

Please correct me if I am wrong!!😑😑

Was there a couple of years ago. I have not sold any stock in the last few years beyond 1Lac since they brought back ltcg/stcg.
I could be mistaken then. But either way removing indexing is not good for investors
 
Was there a couple of years ago. I have not sold any stock in the last few years beyond 1Lac since they brought back ltcg/stcg.
I could be mistaken then. But either way removing indexing is not good for investors
No no no... That was grandfathering clause in Equity which govt exercised when introduced LTCG on Equity.😤😤

In MF, indexation benefits is still given!!😑😑
 
In MF, indexation benefits is still given!!😑😑
No yaar afaik Equity mf no indexation is there. I have also checked but internet is also telling me the same.

Can you share any source for this info....this will be a game changer if true
 
No yaar afaik Equity mf no indexation is there. I have also checked but internet is also telling me the same.

Can you share any source for this info....this will be a game changer if true
Absolutely you are correct it is not available in Equity MF... In Debt MF they have removed in last budget.

But till today Indexation benefits is available on Hybrid MF.

You requested for source: https://cleartax.in/s/different-mutual-funds-taxed


I am going through the annexures to understand more... How these will change from tomorrow!!

Yaar you know na... How govt works... They put all the good words in budget speech but all the bad things are mentioned in T&C i.e. in annexures which govt releases afterwards!!😂😂
 
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