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Axis Magnus Recent devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve. Further action for TF community?

rahulsethi

TF Ace
Update with the revised official devaluation, this call for action makes no sense now 🙏 Axis has played fair this time crediting all pending ER by Aug 10 including those from July month, giving everyone a chance to transfer at 5:4 one last time. My suggestion, go all in for Accor.

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Hello TF family,

We all are now aware of the recent devaluation of the Axis Magnus and Reserve cards. I am writing to you as a concerned Axis customer and member of the TF community, regarding what could be our next course of action. As we know the bank changed the transfer partner ratios significantly from 5:4 to 5:1, among other unfavorable alterations. I took the initiative to personally contact Axis priority customer care, and they confirmed that an official communication regarding these changes is scheduled for release on July 11.

While I understand that product features and terms are subject to change within the purview of the bank, I firmly believe that it is our right as customers to be adequately notified well in advance. In the case of Axis Magnus, for instance, the one-month notice provided is insufficient. According to the bank's process, points earned today are credited after a period of three months. Therefore, if I have made purchases today under the assumption that the earned points would be redeemable at a 5:4 transfer rate based on the existing contract, it is only reasonable and legally justified to expect a three-month advance notice for any policy changes, as the points are credited with a three-month delay. Failure to provide such notice constitutes a malpractice on Axis's part, and I am confident that Axis will be unable to justify this oversight if brought to the attention of the RBI Ombudsman.

Considering the above circumstances, I propose the following course of action to address this malpractice. First, it is essential to raise awareness about this issue within the TF community and other credit card forums. We should utilize platforms such as Twitter and other social media channels, tagging Axis and bringing attention to this matter. Secondly, once the official communication is received on July 11, I suggest writing an email to the customer care department, highlighting the procedural lapse and malpractice that has occurred. I anticipate that the response received will likely be a standard answer. Therefore, it is crucial to escalate the matter to the Principal Nodal Officer (PNO) of the bank and after one month, subsequently, if necessary, to the RBI Ombudsman. I firmly believe that either the Ombudsman will rule in our favor and ensure the transfer of our pending points at the rightful exchange rate, or the bank itself will be compelled to settle the matter. This negotiation process also presents an excellent opportunity to discuss the possibility of converting the Magnus card to a Lifetime Free (LTF) option.

In conclusion, I believe that united action and diligent pursuit of this matter will be instrumental in resolving the issues faced by customers affected by the devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve cards.

Rahul
 
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Ok
You and me are not entitled to even raise a dispute.

Because of the clauses 9,10,11

So stop spreading fake beliefs to people that we can do something.

Accor and vistara temporary hold in May end is due to technical glitch.

They bought it back after it got rectified, not because of some LinkedIn thread, lol
It's our right to raise our voice so did you. So stop calling out other people and I am being very polite in urging that or unless you have some stake in Axis bank then ofcourse it's your right to defend the bank. Whatever fine print you are talking about can't stop us to take it to the RBI Ombudsman, a malpractice is a malpractice whichever tnc fineprint they use to cover for it and we will raise our voice against it through all available channels. If nothing better it can get us better card terms in form of annual fee and all and I think every one of us should escalate it.
 
If they take 90-120 days to award points, then they should give 90-120 days before changing terms.

You are getting baited on a notion of value and then the bank changing terms before you get any of these rewards is not gonna end up well.

This is a pretty severe devaluation, it is so bad that the rewards might not be worth the hassle pursuing anymore, specially with such lengthy delays and inconsistency in crediting points. And with banks reporting credit card payments to AIS it might as well end up in the drawer.

Even with genuine spends now it's quite an average card, even priority pass got shot down to almost no lounges within India. Accelerated GrabDeals also has gone down considerably that it isn't worth the hassle dealing with it.

Whether it's the bank or toxic credit card culture here that killed Magnus, Axis never stood up to their promises of quality of service and experience. I'll keep the card for the following year due to annual waiver and then it is getting canceled.

Even if with Reserve you keep 5:4 ratio it might still not be enough to entice most of the Magnus clients, if anything the people who would get Reserve are the ones who abused Magnus.
But if you check the Magnus page on axis official website
Axis always mentioned that ER value is 0.20 paisa and never in terms of Miles
Like the 25 K ER is valued at 5000 Rs
So in that way we can not sue Axis as they have been very clear on this from inception
Miles transfer was facilitated from travel edge and not from axis , so technically they can change the terms at any time .
Just think of it , what would have happened if they have removed all transfer partners and left us with only voucher redemption options ?
It’s exactly the same scenario just that they kept transfer partners as it is and changed the transfer rate.
 
Ok
You and me are not entitled to even raise a dispute.

Because of the clauses 9,10,11

So stop spreading fake beliefs to people that we can do something.

Accor and vistara temporary hold in May end is due to technical glitch.

They bought it back after it got rectified, not because of some LinkedIn thread, lol
Yes move on unless this impacted roti rozi like a few 🤣
 
But if you check the Magnus page on axis official website
Axis always mentioned that ER value is 0.20 paisa and never in terms of Miles
Like the 25 K ER is valued at 5000 Rs
So in that way we can not sue Axis as they have been very clear on this from inception
Miles transfer was facilitated from travel edge and not from axis , so technically they can change the terms at any time .
Just think of it , what would have happened if they have removed all transfer partners and left us with only voucher redemption options ?
It’s exactly the same scenario just that they kept transfer partners as it is and changed the transfer rate.
Valid points. Overall, party is over now and loopholes fixed.
 
It's our right to raise our voice so did you. So stop calling out other people and I am being very polite in urging that or unless you have some stake in Axis bank then ofcourse it's your right to defend the bank. Whatever fine print you are talking about can't stop us to take it to the RBI Ombudsman, a malpractice is a malpractice whichever tnc fineprint they use to cover for it and we will raise our voice against it through all available channels. If nothing better it can get us better card terms in form of annual fee and all and I think every one of us should escalate it.
Dude, this isn't a malpractice. Lol.
 
Everyone knew that this was going to happen eventually, everyone wanted a piece of the pie before it happened. Some managed, others like me, didn't. If axis has decided this, there's nothing anyone can do.
Obviously, this isn't malpractice. They can remove all of your points balance and give no reason at all and still it would be in their legal purview.
Just look at the SBI cards. Cashback was retrospectively debited by SBI of already credited and utilised RP/cashback in last feb-march, nobody was able to do a thing.
Move on.
 
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What kind of entitlement is this? Axis doesn’t owe you or anyone anything. It’s a business. Don’t like it, take your business elsewhere.

How is it even remotely a malpractice? Axis has always spoken about value of miles in terms of 0.2 only. They do always say T&Cs can be changed without prior notice.

When they gave 24% none of these petition geniuses questioned while signing the T&Cs as to “what if they screw us one fine day? Let me not take this card”. You happily took the card.

Twitter is filled with jokes like petition,LinkedIn posts calling it an injustice. It’s so funny given axis hasn’t even announced it officallly. Even if they did, it’s not your own money which is getting affected. The promised 0.2Rs is safe as always.
 
Everyone knew that this was going to happen eventually, everyone wanted a piece of the pie before it happened. Some managed, others like me, didn't. If axis has decided this, there's nothing anyone can do.
Obviously, this isn't malpractice. They can remove all of your points balance and give no reason at all and still it would be in their legal purview.
Just look at the SBI card cashback retrospective debit by SBI of already credited and utilised RP/cashback in last feb-march, nobody was able to do a thing.
Move on.
That is what i am saying. People are again poking them on social media. They may take a even harder stance and take back points earned illegally using hacks or bharatnxt etc
 
What kind of entitlement is this? Axis doesn’t owe you or anyone anything. It’s a business. Don’t like it, take your business elsewhere.

How is it even remotely a malpractice? Axis has always spoken about value of miles in terms of 0.2 only. They do always say T&Cs can be changed without prior notice.

When they gave 24% none of these petition geniuses questioned while signing the T&Cs as to “what if they screw us one fine day? Let me not take this card”. You happily took the card.

Twitter is filled with jokes like petition,LinkedIn posts calling it an injustice. It’s so funny given axis hasn’t even announced it officallly. Even if they did, it’s not your own money which is getting affected. The promised 0.2Rs is safe as always.
Bro, all these freebies wouldn't understand what you are telling . As you said, .2 paise is even more for these manufactured spenders.
 
I have been ignoring Tata Neu offers for sometimes. Is it worth considering the offer now?

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Yeah take it with FYF and ask for LTF conversion. Many people have converted their Tata Neu cards to LTF by just one mail to HDFC grievance cell. And if they don't, you can close it before renewal. Its not worth keeping paid Neucard.
 
Yeah take it with FYF and ask for LTF conversion. Many people have converted their Tata Neu cards to LTF by just one mail to HDFC grievance cell. And if they don't, you can close it before renewal. Its not worth keeping paid Neucard.
I do have LTF Infinia.. still Neucard is worth the hassle?
 
But if you check the Magnus page on axis official website
Axis always mentioned that ER value is 0.20 paisa and never in terms of Miles
Like the 25 K ER is valued at 5000 Rs
So in that way we can not sue Axis as they have been very clear on this from inception
Miles transfer was facilitated from travel edge and not from axis , so technically they can change the terms at any time .
Just think of it , what would have happened if they have removed all transfer partners and left us with only voucher redemption options ?
It’s exactly the same scenario just that they kept transfer partners as it is and changed the transfer rate.
At this rate no one is gonna transfer it's as good as there are no transfer partners, actually it now makes no business sense for transfer partners to continue with axis edge rewards program because no one is actually gonna use them. Business viability of transfer partners stem from the fact they provide higher benefit than statement credit which is not the case with Axis ER now.
 
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