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Axis Magnus Recent devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve. Further action for TF community?

rahulsethi

TF Ace
Update with the revised official devaluation, this call for action makes no sense now 🙏 Axis has played fair this time crediting all pending ER by Aug 10 including those from July month, giving everyone a chance to transfer at 5:4 one last time. My suggestion, go all in for Accor.

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Hello TF family,

We all are now aware of the recent devaluation of the Axis Magnus and Reserve cards. I am writing to you as a concerned Axis customer and member of the TF community, regarding what could be our next course of action. As we know the bank changed the transfer partner ratios significantly from 5:4 to 5:1, among other unfavorable alterations. I took the initiative to personally contact Axis priority customer care, and they confirmed that an official communication regarding these changes is scheduled for release on July 11.

While I understand that product features and terms are subject to change within the purview of the bank, I firmly believe that it is our right as customers to be adequately notified well in advance. In the case of Axis Magnus, for instance, the one-month notice provided is insufficient. According to the bank's process, points earned today are credited after a period of three months. Therefore, if I have made purchases today under the assumption that the earned points would be redeemable at a 5:4 transfer rate based on the existing contract, it is only reasonable and legally justified to expect a three-month advance notice for any policy changes, as the points are credited with a three-month delay. Failure to provide such notice constitutes a malpractice on Axis's part, and I am confident that Axis will be unable to justify this oversight if brought to the attention of the RBI Ombudsman.

Considering the above circumstances, I propose the following course of action to address this malpractice. First, it is essential to raise awareness about this issue within the TF community and other credit card forums. We should utilize platforms such as Twitter and other social media channels, tagging Axis and bringing attention to this matter. Secondly, once the official communication is received on July 11, I suggest writing an email to the customer care department, highlighting the procedural lapse and malpractice that has occurred. I anticipate that the response received will likely be a standard answer. Therefore, it is crucial to escalate the matter to the Principal Nodal Officer (PNO) of the bank and after one month, subsequently, if necessary, to the RBI Ombudsman. I firmly believe that either the Ombudsman will rule in our favor and ensure the transfer of our pending points at the rightful exchange rate, or the bank itself will be compelled to settle the matter. This negotiation process also presents an excellent opportunity to discuss the possibility of converting the Magnus card to a Lifetime Free (LTF) option.

In conclusion, I believe that united action and diligent pursuit of this matter will be instrumental in resolving the issues faced by customers affected by the devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve cards.

Rahul
 
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Not necessarily on neu app
You can directly use coins on croma, bb, tata cliq and even can use for air Asia flights as well

As per my opinion, card is great, gives 5% cashback on bill payment, 1.5% everywhere, and if you use it from neu app, you can get best value
My personal experience the cashback has been irregular looks something fishy. It doesn't always tally with spends. I have Tata Neu Infinity LTF
 
We should take it up and see what response they have. They can have prospective changes but retrospective value reduction without sufficient Notice is not legal imo.
 
What is the XIRR you getting on ULIPs? Maybe you should focus on it more than cards first. UNSOLICITED ADVICE


My plan is good, great coverage and most investments in index funds. ULIPs have to be taken with a pinch of salt but not all plans are useless infact I got the same coverage cheaper than term plans and still investments free of LTCG tax in index funds.
 
FYI like few are defending Axis here even my friends from B school who are in Axis leadership even they won't like that 😅 are you guys on Axis payroll? And speaking of taking business elsewhere I can very happily do that have 30 active credit cards with some good ones like DCB LTF and Amex cards soon to be upgraded to Infinia Metal.
what a weird flex. Axis does not owe you anything.
 
what a weird flex. Axis does not owe you anything.
I have my rights as a customer to escalate a grievance, if you find that a flex it's your perspective. Also with someone with choices Axis also can't take my business for granted. I have 2 Axis accounts (Axis plus Citi) and 4 premium ccs (now just for namesake except probably the Air vistara infinite) 😅(Citi + 3 Axis) I can very conveniently take my spends to Infinia or elsewhere and close my Axis relationships, Axis also doesn't own my business.
 
On grounds of “he has B school friends” and “30 active cards”.
This Magnus aftermath has been a joke on social media. Sheer entitlement seriously.

Axis promised only 0.2p = 1edge conversion. Rest all was just addons which was fun while it lasted.
Again I aint complaining about the change in reward structure it's about inadequate notice which is not a good practice imo. It's about the rewards I already earned through legit spends which are yet to be credited.
 
My plan is good, great coverage and most investments in index funds. ULIPs have to be taken with a pinch of salt but not all plans are useless infact I got the same coverage cheaper than term plans and still investments free of LTCG tax in index funds.
What is the commission/cut taken. I mean out of 100 rs how much is exactly invested in index funds?

What is the name of the plan
 
Again I aint complaining about the change in reward structure it's about inadequate notice which is not a good practice imo. It's about the rewards I already earned through legit spends which are yet to be credited.
You are right . Have you already filed a complaint? Dont listen to Naysayers. No harm in trying

Do tell us the outcome of your complaint
 
Again I aint complaining about the change in reward structure it's about inadequate notice which is not a good practice imo. It's about the rewards I already earned through legit spends which are yet to be credited.
Those rewards are valued at what axis promised. 0.2Rs = 1edge.
Rest all are transfer partners.

Tomorrow if Accor devalues without notice, you will go behind axis? This is equally ridiculous.
 
What is the commission/cut taken. I mean out of 100 rs how much is exactly invested in index funds?

What is the name of the plan
No commission got it through policy bazaar. Plan is Tata AIA Sampoorna Suraksha Param Rakshak. 2 cr sum assured. When I took it I carefully compared it with the best term plan I was getting if I adjust for mortality charge and premium allocation charges (latter I will get refund later in policy term) and look for the average returns of the funds I chose to invest in, it was hell of a plan. But I also agree most ULIPs are crap and provide very inadequate coverage too, esp those from icici prudential the story someone share above. You need to carefully research any product before investing. Also, while it lasted I got 1 lakh ER on my annualized premium of 4 lakh further sweetening the deal. Also be careful your annual aggregate ULIP premiums shall not exceed 2.5 lakhs and total insurance premiums not beyond 5 lakhs else you wint get LTCG tax exemptions on exit. Also I took 5 year limited pay which makes sense in ULIP as compounding on the investment compoment while limited pay doesn't make sense in term plans. Out of 100, 70 is invested in my plan. But most of the remainder is premium allocation charge which will be invested back later in policy term.
 
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We all are now aware of the recent devaluation of the Axis Magnus and Reserve cards. I am writing to you as a concerned Axis customer and member of the TF community, regarding what could be our next course of action. As we know the bank changed the transfer partner ratios significantly from 5:4 to 5:1, among other unfavorable alterations. I took the initiative to personally contact Axis priority customer care, and they confirmed that an official communication regarding these changes is scheduled for release on July 11.
Axis lost its credibility. I was about to apply for Magnus. Good thing is that I don't need to worry about it. Hopefully, other banks will not follow axis bank...
 
No commission got it through policy bazaar. Plan is Tata AIA Sampoorna Suraksha Param Rakshak. 2 cr sum assured. When I took it I carefully compared it with the best term plan I was getting if I adjust for mortality charge and premium allocation charges (latter I will get refund later in policy term) and look for the average returns of the funds I chose to invest in, it was hell of a plan. But I also agree most ULIPs are crap and provide very inadequate coverage too, esp those from icici prudential the story someone share above. You need to carefully research any product before investing. Also, while it lasted I got 1 lakh ER on my annualized premium of 4 lakh further sweetening the deal. Also be careful your annual aggregate ULIP premiums shall not exceed 2.5 lakhs and total insurance premiums not beyond 5 lakhs else you wint get LTCG tax exemptions on exit. Also I took 5 year limited pay which makes sense in ULIP as compounding on the investment compoment while limited pay doesn't make sense in term plans. Out of 100, 70 is invested in my plan. But most of the remainder is premium allocation charge which will be invested back later in policy term.
I doubt Premium Allocation Charges are invested later on. They are as good as gone (30%)
 
Axis lost its credibility. I was about to apply for Magnus. Good thing is that I don't need to worry about it. Hopefully, other banks will not follow axis bank...
Bitter truth they will, every card will devalue at some stage. But there should be a proper way to that rather than dropping a bomb.
 
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can you share this mentioned in TnC in a document? Or this is what your believe in agent talks
Sir I have researched the issued policy thoroughly there it clearly mentions each charge or credit and at what time. Also, models returns on standard 4% and 8 % returns as is the norm. So, trust me it gets credited back but when exactly I don't remember. But I urge you to do your own thorough research before buying any such BFSI product. Also products also change over time like we see in the Magnus case, so always a good idea to do a through research and comparisons.
 
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