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Amex Gyftr Devaluation? Multiple numbers not working

pslashb

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Tried buying more than 10K Amazon Vouchers from Gyftr yesterday and post 10K all transactions were getting declined after using a different mobile numbers. Can anyone else confirm the same?

Relevant reddit thread:


Update:

- Multiple folks have confirmed that their transactions are getting decline, so definitely seems to be true.
- Add-On card will be counted as separate card so you might be able to bypass the 10K limit. I will update this post once I am able to test that myself
 
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I really don't understand the logic with how they operate.

If you left a loophole and people used it , you fix the loophole and either warn the users or provide a solution on what works and what doesn't work .

Or , give everyone a chance to detach the number tagged to the card on the gyftr website , or even have a login page where we can add cards and see what's what.

Literally 0 communication and then banning phone numbers , especially for the only website that gives accelerated returns , it's the dumbest thing you can do.
100% agree with this.

Not even a loophole but more sort of, the limit previously was per mobile number.

So, people figured it and used different mobile numbers.

Just move the limit to per card number and that sorts everything out!
But now, they've complicated the whole process by connecting random mobile numbers with different cards.

Absolutely unnecessary, they need to learn something from HDFC.

Mobile numbers don't matter and shouldn't even matter. Put the limit per card, and end of the story.
 
Does this apply only to amex gyftr or all gyftr sites ?
Not sure since I only use AMEX Gyftr.

If I close all my AMEX cards, can I re-apply for all of them after a while? Since without 5X rewards I find both the gold and platinum useless to me.

They've banned the combination of the first 10 digits of my cards, I tried getting new card numbers but only the last few change so it did not work RIP
 
I also got told my main phone number is banned on amex gyftr. But now I'm not able to purchase any vouchers on HDFC payzapp app routed gyftr too. Keeps giving 302 bad pathway error. Almost a week now. Gyftr support said amex gyftr and HDFC gyftr are separate but this is just making me anxious. I have 13 cards , including sbi , axis , hdfc and amex. If my main number is banned on all, I can't buy any vouchers on gyftr effectively. Also there is no proper way to reach gyftr . I used to be able to connect to an agent via call but now even that is not working. Have pinged on twitter.

I hate how helpless this makes me feel. Is anyone else who has similar cards also facing similar issue ? Is there any way I can take this to PNO or something? There is no clarity on how to escalate honestly.
 
So now irrespective of no of amex cards, only 10k amzn pay vouchers can be purchased right ?
If i use different mobile no and original mail id still it detects 10k limit and declines.
And If i use different mobile no and diff email , then transaction is rejected. Otp does not get generated .
Any workaround for this to purchase more than 10k amzn pay vouchers ( other than suppl cards ) ?
Pathetic only 250 denomination available
Today i need to spend around 4k on mrcc for 2k bonus points .
 
I also got told my main phone number is banned on amex gyftr. But now I'm not able to purchase any vouchers on HDFC payzapp app routed gyftr too. Keeps giving 302 bad pathway error. Almost a week now. Gyftr support said amex gyftr and HDFC gyftr are separate but this is just making me anxious. I have 13 cards , including sbi , axis , hdfc and amex. If my main number is banned on all, I can't buy any vouchers on gyftr effectively. Also there is no proper way to reach gyftr . I used to be able to connect to an agent via call but now even that is not working. Have pinged on twitter.

I hate how helpless this makes me feel. Is anyone else who has similar cards also facing similar issue ? Is there any way I can take this to PNO or something? There is no clarity on how to escalate honestly.
what is the reason for banning? they can't just ban any user
 
So now irrespective of no of amex cards, only 10k amzn pay vouchers can be purchased right ?
If i use different mobile no and original mail id still it detects 10k limit and declines.
And If i use different mobile no and diff email , then transaction is rejected. Otp does not get generated .
Any workaround for this to purchase more than 10k amzn pay vouchers ( other than suppl cards ) ?
Pathetic only 250 denomination available
Today i need to spend around 4k on mrcc for 2k bonus points .
That's correct, it's a messy situation right now and only 10K voucher per card is possible.
 
what is the reason for banning? they can't just ban any user
They keep citing internal security checks. I used my pan card linked and amex cards linked phone number for all my amex cards just like how we do for any credit card . Turns out, that is wrong according to gyftr. They banned my official number for using it with multiple amex cards. Fyi , by multiple cards they mean my own trifecta.

The website never said user needs to have unique phone number for each amex card , and banning the number that is actually linked to all my credit cards is the dumbest thing ever. Sadly noway to escalate.
 
What pisses me off the most is that , none of this should be my headache. They implemented a dumb system, people were able to use unique phone numbers to buy more than 10k per card.

I did too , UPTO SEPTEMBER. Cause when people started saying gyftr was now making changes , I also limited my voucher purchases. I basically bought 10k on plat travel and 10k on GC + MRCC combined. That's it , it's actually lesser than 10k per card. And guess what they do, they can my number cause it was used for purchasing voucher with multiple ( my own ) amex cards. I don't understand the logic of their thought process .

Someone taking a credit card needs their pan card linked number to apply for the credit card , they need that very same number for OTP and everything. For HDfc payzapp, we need to login first before we even make any gyftr voucher purchases . They never had a system like that for amex gyftr. That's their mistake . They dint have a warning or a message or any email to user saying " even if you have multiple amex cards, kindly use a unique number for each ". So what would someone who owns multiple cards do ? They do everything for ALL their cards via that ONE NUMBER . That's a daily habit. I don't understand how that would cause internal security issues.

I never use my personal numbers for anyone else's amex card. Yes I used my secondary number for purchasing voucher but that's cause gyftr like a moron linked that number to my other card after my September transaction.

They could have created a login page, they could have created an " add your cards" page, they could have given the option to remove tagged numbers, send email giving a warning that you are doing too many transactions so if you don't reduce or stop your account will get banned.

Instead they just banned.

If someone has any option via which I can escalate this, please please please do help. I'm so pissed off .
 
Wondering how people were using AMEX before the GYFTR platform existed? Good job by gyftr and Amex had genuine users before gyftr, and it will continue to have it. Say bye-bye to Referral sellers.
Bruh Im still using amex without any change in my spendings . And no this is not a good job, this is a dumb move. My concern is that if Phone numbers are being blocked , how will I use gyftr ever again ?

If you think this is a good job , you are basically settling for sub standard implementations that will have longterms effects for any change that happens. Expecting proper communication, easier access to grievance redressal and a well setup system is any consumer's right .

So as per your comment , I'm one of the those referral sellers ? Im not a genuine user ? I understand people hating Amex , but butting in with unnecessary comments that have no relevance to the issue being discussed is not how you contribute to a topic. My issue or others issue here isn't referral or whatever , it's that we are getting impacted for a dumb change that is not well thought out , even earlier and even now. Both the older system and the new system suck.
 
So as per your comment , I'm one of the those referral sellers ? Im not a genuine user ? I understand people hating Amex , but butting in with unnecessary comments that have no relevance to the issue being discussed is not how you contribute to a topic. My issue or others issue here isn't referral or whatever , it's that we are getting impacted for a dumb change that is not well thought out , even earlier and even now. Both the older system and the new system suck.
If you can see correctly, I did not reply to you. It was a general comment not referring to you, but feel free to get offended. Were you talking about referral sellers? Check your referral message link below your message. I wish you all the best in solving the issue.
 

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That was before all of this drama happened.

Now, every card is attached to one number so it limits the purchases to 10K per card no matter what number you use.
If what u are saying is true( 10k per card) , then I have already purchased 10k vouchers using 2 amex cards(In each card its just 4k + 6K ) , but still it doesn't allow for purchasing more, until 10k is reached for each card.
So its overall 10k per account not per card .
 
If what u are saying is true( 10k per card) , then I have already purchased 10k vouchers using 2 amex cards(In each card its just 4k + 6K ) , but still it doesn't allow for purchasing more, until 10k is reached for each card.
So its overall 10k per account not per card .

Ah! I get your case, so here's how it works

Total limit per card = 10K
Total limit per number = 10K

Your case:
First card + First mobile number = 6K
Second card + First mobile number = 4K
Limit(per number) reached!

Best-case scenario:
First card + first mobile number = 10K
Second card + second mobile number = 10K
Both cards and both numbers were optimally reached!

But since most people have only one mobile number or have already purchased vouchers using both cards but one mobile number, both the cards have been linked to one mobile number.

And one mobile number only allows 10K worth of purchases which is why you're not able to buy more.
 
Ah! I get your case, so here's how it works

Total limit per card = 10K
Total limit per number = 10K

Your case:
First card + First mobile number = 6K
Second card + First mobile number = 4K
Limit(per number) reached!

Best-case scenario:
First card + first mobile number = 10K
Second card + second mobile number = 10K
Both cards and both numbers were optimally reached!

But since most people have only one mobile number or have already purchased vouchers using both cards but one mobile number, both the cards have been linked to one mobile number.

And one mobile number only allows 10K worth of purchases which is why you're not able to buy more.
Second card + second mobile number = 10K ,
How to link second card to another mobile number ? Since amex account is linked to single mobile number right ?
In my case all amex cards are linked to same mobile number .
 
Second card + second mobile number = 10K ,
How to link second card to another mobile number ? Since amex account is linked to single mobile number right ?
In my case all amex cards are linked to same mobile number .
No way to unlink or change linked numbers yet on Gyftr.

But not to worry, this is temporary, I'm sure they will be finding a better way to do this soon!
 
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