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Axis Magnus Recent devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve. Further action for TF community?

rahulsethi

TF Ace
Update with the revised official devaluation, this call for action makes no sense now 🙏 Axis has played fair this time crediting all pending ER by Aug 10 including those from July month, giving everyone a chance to transfer at 5:4 one last time. My suggestion, go all in for Accor.

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Hello TF family,

We all are now aware of the recent devaluation of the Axis Magnus and Reserve cards. I am writing to you as a concerned Axis customer and member of the TF community, regarding what could be our next course of action. As we know the bank changed the transfer partner ratios significantly from 5:4 to 5:1, among other unfavorable alterations. I took the initiative to personally contact Axis priority customer care, and they confirmed that an official communication regarding these changes is scheduled for release on July 11.

While I understand that product features and terms are subject to change within the purview of the bank, I firmly believe that it is our right as customers to be adequately notified well in advance. In the case of Axis Magnus, for instance, the one-month notice provided is insufficient. According to the bank's process, points earned today are credited after a period of three months. Therefore, if I have made purchases today under the assumption that the earned points would be redeemable at a 5:4 transfer rate based on the existing contract, it is only reasonable and legally justified to expect a three-month advance notice for any policy changes, as the points are credited with a three-month delay. Failure to provide such notice constitutes a malpractice on Axis's part, and I am confident that Axis will be unable to justify this oversight if brought to the attention of the RBI Ombudsman.

Considering the above circumstances, I propose the following course of action to address this malpractice. First, it is essential to raise awareness about this issue within the TF community and other credit card forums. We should utilize platforms such as Twitter and other social media channels, tagging Axis and bringing attention to this matter. Secondly, once the official communication is received on July 11, I suggest writing an email to the customer care department, highlighting the procedural lapse and malpractice that has occurred. I anticipate that the response received will likely be a standard answer. Therefore, it is crucial to escalate the matter to the Principal Nodal Officer (PNO) of the bank and after one month, subsequently, if necessary, to the RBI Ombudsman. I firmly believe that either the Ombudsman will rule in our favor and ensure the transfer of our pending points at the rightful exchange rate, or the bank itself will be compelled to settle the matter. This negotiation process also presents an excellent opportunity to discuss the possibility of converting the Magnus card to a Lifetime Free (LTF) option.

In conclusion, I believe that united action and diligent pursuit of this matter will be instrumental in resolving the issues faced by customers affected by the devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve cards.

Rahul
 
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FYI I never gamed it, my only grudge is the notice is not adequate even for honest card members like me and there are many like me. And it's our purview what we choose to do with our time and where do we take our business. So if you don't wanna take it up by all means don't do, but don't chide those who choose to. I just gave a way to take it up, how successful it will be will vary individual to individual. If you don't wanna pursue it don't by all means but don't dissuade others
I never said you did. But people did.

Axis has in-fact made a mockery of a HNI level card. Lets look a couple of reasons that resulted in this debacle:
- Easy availability of Magnus on c2c basis. Any tom-dick & harry could apply and get the card
- There were so called consultants who were promising that they will get Magnus to anyone, essentially they were making money of referral. HNI customers are not acquired like this
- Once people have the card, they were looking for making money out of this.. through known and unknown NON-legit and or illegal methods
- Axis left multiple loopholes for people to game.
- Sum it up, its a mess created by Axis, that now are trying to clean by creating more mess.

My 2c, take a chill pill and move on.
 
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I never said you did. But people did.

Axis has in-fact made a mockery of a HNI level card. Lets look a couple of reasons that resulted in this debacle:
- Easy availability of Magnus on c2c basis. Any tom-dick & harry could apply and get the card
- There were so called consultants who were promising that they will get Magnus to anyone, essentially they were making money of referral. HNI customers are not acquired like this
- Once people have the card, they were looking for making money out of this.. through known and unknown NON-legit and or illegal methods
- Axis left multiple loopholes for people to game.
- Sum it up, its a mess created by Axis, that now are trying to clean by creating more mess.

My 2c, take a chill pill and move on.
They made a greater mockery out of the so called super premium Reserve card 😅 our pain is nothing in front of theirs. Now Reserve and Privilege are at par 🤣
 
Hello TF family,

We all are now aware of the recent devaluation of the Axis Magnus and Reserve cards. I am writing to you as a concerned Axis customer and member of the TF community, regarding what could be our next course of action. As we know the bank changed the transfer partner ratios significantly from 5:4 to 5:1, among other unfavorable alterations. I took the initiative to personally contact Axis priority customer care, and they confirmed that an official communication regarding these changes is scheduled for release on July 11.

While I understand that product features and terms are subject to change within the purview of the bank, I firmly believe that it is our right as customers to be adequately notified well in advance. In the case of Axis Magnus, for instance, the one-month notice provided is insufficient. According to the bank's process, points earned today are credited after a period of three months. Therefore, if I have made purchases today under the assumption that the earned points would be redeemable at a 5:4 transfer rate based on the existing contract, it is only reasonable and legally justified to expect a three-month advance notice for any policy changes, as the points are credited with a three-month delay. Failure to provide such notice constitutes a malpractice on Axis's part, and I am confident that Axis will be unable to justify this oversight if brought to the attention of the RBI Ombudsman.

Considering the above circumstances, I propose the following course of action to address this malpractice. First, it is essential to raise awareness about this issue within the TF community and other credit card forums. We should utilize platforms such as Twitter and other social media channels, tagging Axis and bringing attention to this matter. Secondly, once the official communication is received on July 11, I suggest writing an email to the customer care department, highlighting the procedural lapse and malpractice that has occurred. I anticipate that the response received will likely be a standard answer. Therefore, it is crucial to escalate the matter to the Principal Nodal Officer (PNO) of the bank and after one month, subsequently, if necessary, to the RBI Ombudsman. I firmly believe that either the Ombudsman will rule in our favor and ensure the transfer of our pending points at the rightful exchange rate, or the bank itself will be compelled to settle the matter. This negotiation process also presents an excellent opportunity to discuss the possibility of converting the Magnus card to a Lifetime Free (LTF) option.

In conclusion, I believe that united action and diligent pursuit of this matter will be instrumental in resolving the issues faced by customers affected by the devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve cards.

Rahul
Really ..Using card for fund rotation or paying credit card bill from other cc or using axis loopholes to collect..Is this not malpractice or exploitation on people's part ..Should axis start sueing people for this practise..And i dont think you can do much about it coz they can change anuthing anytime as it is written in terms n conditions.
 
Can you share what you mentioned in the mail and how much time after getting the card you mailed them? I mailed them for converting it to LTF and they denied it.
I just gave dhamki, that I have a preferred salary account will transfer to icici they are giving LTF Sapphiro (which I already got with alumni offer btw) worked like a charm, did the same for sis also she also has a salary acc worked for her also. Now both my HDFC cards are LTF DCB (Alumni offer) Tata Neu Infinity (Threat). I mailed even before the first statement was generated.
 
Really ..Using card for fund rotation or paying credit card bill from other cc or using axis loopholes to collect..Is this not malpractice or exploitation on people's part ..Should axis start sueing people for this practise..And i dont think you can do much about it coz they can change anuthing anytime as it is written in terms n conditions.
Not every one does all this, they should have acted on those card accounts rather giving us a surprise and no proper advance notice. All my Magnus spends are legit and why should I be answerable to these?
 
Really ..Using card for fund rotation or paying credit card bill from other cc or using axis loopholes to collect..Is this not malpractice or exploitation on people's part ..Should axis start sueing people for this practise..And i dont think you can do much about it coz they can change anuthing anytime as it is written in terms n conditions.
I can escalate it all the way up that's my right and I will. Anything else?
 
I just gave dhamki, that I have a preferred salary account will transfer to icici they are giving LTF Sapphiro (which I already got with alumni offer btw) worked like a charm, did the same for sis also she also has a salary acc worked for her also. Now both my HDFC cards are LTF DCB (Alumni offer) Tata Neu Infinity (Threat). I mailed even before the first statement was generated.

Can you provide the Email id.
 
And i dont think you can do much about it coz they can change anuthing anytime as it is written in terms n conditions.
Those rewards are valued at what axis promised. 0.2Rs = 1edge.
Rest all are transfer partners.

Tomorrow if Accor devalues without notice, you will go behind axis? This is equally ridiculous.
Banks cannot do anything according to their own will. Why do you think the circular states 12/13th August and not tomorrow's or yesterday's date

RBI / Banking Ombudsman is there for customer protection and most importantly to maintain trust/faith of the public in the Banking System.

That's why RBI issued new guidelines last year (https://www.technofino.in/community...ssuing-bank-effective-from-1st-july-2022.574/)

RBI is proactive in making progressive reforms in CC, so customers shouldn't shy away from asserting their grievances
More recently : https://www.technofino.in/community...-and-promoting-choice-in-card-networks.14796/
 
My 2 cents on further action.

We should immensely thank Axis Bank for this move. As this will get some sanity back to the credit card system in India. To be honest, there is no free lunch.

Rest, no point in cribbing and petitioning. Its really hilarious to see that people are complaining that loopholes have been fixed and we didn't get opportunity to exploit. Come on guys, move on!!
 
Hello TF family,

We all are now aware of the recent devaluation of the Axis Magnus and Reserve cards. I am writing to you as a concerned Axis customer and member of the TF community, regarding what could be our next course of action. As we know the bank changed the transfer partner ratios significantly from 5:4 to 5:1, among other unfavorable alterations. I took the initiative to personally contact Axis priority customer care, and they confirmed that an official communication regarding these changes is scheduled for release on July 11.

While I understand that product features and terms are subject to change within the purview of the bank, I firmly believe that it is our right as customers to be adequately notified well in advance. In the case of Axis Magnus, for instance, the one-month notice provided is insufficient. According to the bank's process, points earned today are credited after a period of three months. Therefore, if I have made purchases today under the assumption that the earned points would be redeemable at a 5:4 transfer rate based on the existing contract, it is only reasonable and legally justified to expect a three-month advance notice for any policy changes, as the points are credited with a three-month delay. Failure to provide such notice constitutes a malpractice on Axis's part, and I am confident that Axis will be unable to justify this oversight if brought to the attention of the RBI Ombudsman.

Considering the above circumstances, I propose the following course of action to address this malpractice. First, it is essential to raise awareness about this issue within the TF community and other credit card forums. We should utilize platforms such as Twitter and other social media channels, tagging Axis and bringing attention to this matter. Secondly, once the official communication is received on July 11, I suggest writing an email to the customer care department, highlighting the procedural lapse and malpractice that has occurred. I anticipate that the response received will likely be a standard answer. Therefore, it is crucial to escalate the matter to the Principal Nodal Officer (PNO) of the bank and after one month, subsequently, if necessary, to the RBI Ombudsman. I firmly believe that either the Ombudsman will rule in our favor and ensure the transfer of our pending points at the rightful exchange rate, or the bank itself will be compelled to settle the matter. This negotiation process also presents an excellent opportunity to discuss the possibility of converting the Magnus card to a Lifetime Free (LTF) option.

In conclusion, I believe that united action and diligent pursuit of this matter will be instrumental in resolving the issues faced by customers affected by the devaluation of Axis Magnus and Reserve cards.

Rahul
Very right.. 👍👍
 
Whether Magnus makes sense or not depends on where your spending will lie. As you are aware a lot of people used Magnus for govt trans. Can't do that now. But if you are someone who will be hitting that 1L milestone, then it still makes sense to hold for diversity in transfer partners.
You can do govt transactions but no rewards or milestone benefit. That is all.
 
Na rahenge miles ----------- na hongi free trips ------------ no social media posts 🤣

Jinke 10 lac miles ane hai unko 2 saal lagenge to redeem due to 5 lac per year limit from 12 auust.

Cant even close card .

Earlier it was -- Earn and Burn

Now - Wait and heartburn


My 2 cents on further action.

We should immensely thank Axis Bank for this move. As this will get some sanity back to the credit card system in India. To be honest, there is no free lunch.

Rest, no point in cribbing and petitioning. Its really hilarious to see that people are complaining that loopholes have been fixed and we didn't get opportunity to exploit. Come on guys, move on!!
 
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